stfu if csyre didnt have a big ass egirl head next to her tag you wouldnt have said that
The Current Situation v2
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Although I find it sweet of you to make a post 'backing' your friends, you need to re-read what you wrote because clearly everything is one-sided. I gave my honest opinion, which is different to what you have done. If you're going to make a response please don't cherry pick from certain parts of my post, please address everything.
I cannot gain evidence, as she has deleted all her discord messages (10000+) because Luke got to her head at that point, and I don't know why anyone would lie about this. I lost a best friend because of him. You are also contradicting yourself because I don't see any of your evidence either? It's more concerning that you bring this up now and elaborate on it on a public platform, than resolving it in DMs. My claim of Luke manipulating her is like connecting two dots, it's not that hard to see what he did and once again my evidence is limited as she deleted all of her messages.
I love the community and the server, you're right. I was upset because I knew they couldn't do anything to keep it going, in fact matters got worse after that. You asked for my thought process but I didn't tell you because if I did you would always get upset, since you are good friends with both of them.
What do I want to come from this? It is quite self-explanatory. They are not good fit for managers, for many various reasons such as their knowledge, how they treat me and I can go on for days. At the end of the day too, the community who are the people we listen to do not have faith in them at all, especially after what I wrote since it was factual. Invaded is already deteriorating but we can't have the last hope of Invaded in their hands as simply it will really be gone. What I'm trying to say is they should not be manager.
I'm not going to respond to any of your points here as I've debunked these earlier.
You see I have actually worked extremely hard to get staff, it took me around 2 years to turn myself around and be staff worthy. So you clearly aren't seeing yourself from my shoes. I am not letting this go to waste and I actually care about the server. I played the server and enjoy it, I also have many friends that play it. I don't want Invaded to go like this as I do ultimately care for it.
First of all, I don't know why you're getting yourself involved with this all of a sudden. As when I asked you about why she blocked me and stop talking to me you was like 'I don't know, she hasn't told me anything', stop being so one-sided for no reason. Ironic how you all of a sudden know what happened now between us. I didn't get 'pissed' off at her, I was heated that Luke got involved and talked to her about me. You haven't see our snapchat messages, but she wanted to talk to me about something and I was like fair enough. She then said that this 'flirting' needs to stop, which I was like ok I'm fine with that. But, the fact she followed it up 'luke thinks we're edating' made things worse. She was fine with the flirting jokes and the all of a sudden when Luke steps into the equation she wasn't fine with it, it's like she didn't use her own judgement. He was in the VCs too when we made the jokes and I could see he got so angry for what. You can say it has nothing to do with Luke from 'her' words, but I know her too and she is very strange in that way, I could bring up another example which would further prove my point but I don't think it is inappropriate in doing so. I wasn't every trying to fight with her, I was asking her to justify why Luke was telling her stuff because I find it ironic how as soon as Luke starts to question her about me, she started to get more distant away from me. Not to mention our communication was ever the problem, and at times our communication was better between you and hear. It's clear who's fault it was and don't try justifying it because they're your friend.
Yea mb the time might've been exaggerated because I was up late writing this, but I believe it was around nearly half a year.
I couldn't care less if it was a running joke and I don't know what your trying to get out of this because the fact he intervened made things highly awkward and our friendship as a whole was ruined. Once again, I am not trying to ruin Luke's reputation, I am saying what happened and what he did. I did not fight her decision, I disputed the fact that I know this was discussed beforehand with Luke, as she quite literally told me and I don't think it was any of his business to get involved. He was the reason why our friendship ended, and I can go on for days about this but Luke influenced the decision and overall made her way more distant from me. She never even said 'hello' or anything like she used to do, her demeanor was changed through Luke's talks with her.
I did not over react at all, by then I could tell Luke had gotten to her head already. I know for a fact she wouldn't have blocked me if Luke didn't talk to her about the situation. You said she explained it to you, but when I asked you at the time why she blocked me you said you don't know. I'm actually heavily disappointed in you, you left me in the dark when I lost a best friend and now you're giving the explanation on a public forums platform, not ok. Once again I was not rude at her or fought her decision, I disputed the fact that Luke asked her and ultimately influenced her. It's clear you are repeating your points too, so I will be skipping some as I've addressed it previously. I violated your boundaries? Please elaborate on this because we were both friends too on a level whereby you could bring up problems like this with me and not just leave them for no reason. I never insulted her, this is a very cold statement you made here, I would never insult my friends no matter what. I was just trying to get to the bottom of this, and by saying I insulted her, you are quite literally attempting to damage my reputation with lies.
I cannot gain evidence, as she has deleted all her discord messages (10000+) because Luke got to her head at that point, and I don't know why anyone would lie about this. I lost a best friend because of him. You are also contradicting yourself because I don't see any of your evidence either? It's more concerning that you bring this up now and elaborate on it on a public platform, than resolving it in DMs. My claim of Luke manipulating her is like connecting two dots, it's not that hard to see what he did and once again my evidence is limited as she deleted all of her messages.
Nope I am not exaggerating at all. I know Luke manipulated her and influenced her decision, as I hate to say it but she is easily influenced too. I am not using this for my own personal gain, I am trying to spread awareness of what he did, as it's extremely unacceptable. I did not make it out like he was a creepy guy who 'infatuated with teenagers' e-relationships' because if I did everyone would've responded on the basis of that. You are simply fabricating at this point and I'm tired of this, all I was saying that he was too inquisitive for no reason.
There was no 'fighting' goin on, or at least between me and her. I was heated because I knew Luke influenced it and it is obvious he did. You are not the 'middle-man' you were a mutual friend between us and you know we all were very close. I kept asking you because I was genuinely sad that she stopped speaking to me as a whole, I couldn't care less regarding the 'flirty' jokes. And I'm sorry if it made you sad but I was sad too that I lost a close friend over Luke.
Ok but was I not one of your closest friend? You were the neutral party and it's sad to see that you are viewing this in a tunnel-vision, you clearly avoided certain part of my posts where Luke made up stories to tarnish my reputation, yet you fail to acknowledge this. And no, we can't just move on and say sorry, he made up a story and the damage has already been done to my reputation. He said that he was 'uncertain' whether it happened or not, well he was uncertain he shouldn't have brought it up in the first place. Making stories like these NEED to be reinforced with evidence, and he can't go off the basis of 'I remember', it has to be 'I know and I have evidence'.
If all they wanted to do was help the server as they cared for it, they would've done way more in the past and not all of a sudden get a burst of motivation one there was a 'vacancy'. They worked quite closely with affixes, and I remember they group called me asking for what my plans were. Luke told me that him and Lumboc were willing to work with affixes, and I just don't know how they did that after they were fighting in our corner for so long. It was very pet-like, in fact they would non-stop speak to affixes and agree with him no matter what. I know this because I was still staff at the time and when they were in group calls, they were always holding affixes' pocket. You say they worked to make better changes but please tell me what changes there were done, nothing at all. The most changes they made was a change in the way how they handle the trainee process now, which the way how they're doing it know is absurd.
I love the community and the server, you're right. I was upset because I knew they couldn't do anything to keep it going, in fact matters got worse after that. You asked for my thought process but I didn't tell you because if I did you would always get upset, since you are good friends with both of them.
The community did not want them to be managers as they are simply not capable of holding such a position. They were too optimistic and thought they could drastically change things around once they had manager. What you're saying right now is quite opposite as to what happened. I find it disrespectful how we all argued for him to go and more perms for managers, yet it was only given once kvids and zack went, despite trying our hardest to get it done. I found out that Luke had forums control panel, which wasn't going to be given before to previous managers. I asked him 'Oh so now you have it, why wasn't it given before?' He replied with because 'no one asked for it'. This was heavily disappointing as he KNEW that the other managers asked for powers such as forums control panel because he was in our corner since the beginning. Yet he suddenly says 'they never asked for it', once again another act of betrayal as he said this because he was too close with affixes and didn't want to violate him.as i said before, i was consistently told by them that affixes knew that if he didn't comply with how they wanted to run things, they would quit. they were just trying to help the server and took a large amount of running it from his hands (again, because they didn't agree with how he ran things and wanted to do things better because they genuinely cared for the community and wanted to give you guys what you wanted, not what affixes wanted) before his demotion occurred. they wanted him gone and disagreed with him as much as anyone else did?
No I made it clear that they were not good fit. I gave them their chances to see how they would perform and it was poor, even the community can agree with this. I also think that the fact they couldn't do their previous staff rank duties, makes me wonder how they can even cope with management duties.
First of all, who told you they saw it with logs. You are not 'staff' so I don't know why you would be commenting on this at all. My alt had gmc and I was like fair enough, they can ask me why I had it. But the fact Luke followed it up with a story, that you did not address in this response, shows that it was very dumb of him to do so.
I don't want to undermine his knowledge but I think we can all agree he is not ready for the role, nor is Luke. Having experience and managing smaller servers quite literally does not compete with Invaded. If he wanted to help behind the scenes he could've at least grasped how to do basic duties like unlinks, yet he thinks he can make a big jump to managing InvadedLands, which requires knowledge which I do not think he possesses.yes, lumboc may be more of a "yes man" when it comes to things but he does have experience owning and managing servers and working with files, etc. he may not make the best decisions on his own or have the most extravagant or successful ideas, but he still can help and does help behind the scenes whereas others might not have as much experience. i see no issues having someone on the team who's willing to help and knows (sort of) how to ?
this is my most important question in this whole shitty reply that i'm writing, and i'm asking this to be proactive and to also understand: what do you want to come from this? what do you personally think will help the server most?
if you can't give a proper, decently fleshed out, helpful idea for this, then it's clear that you're solely trying to continue drama and not trying to find any sort of solution for the server
I don't mind criticism whatsoever, especially against people who have actually done something wrong, and if you had gone the extra mile and found solutions and made suggestions on how to move forward, i probably wouldn't have written a reply at all, but you went about this in the wrong way.
i also feel the need to clarify before someone says something about this, none of what i've written is criticizing you for resigning. that's completely up to you and is your choice. i'm only criticizing what you've written here to hurt my friends' reputations.
What do I want to come from this? It is quite self-explanatory. They are not good fit for managers, for many various reasons such as their knowledge, how they treat me and I can go on for days. At the end of the day too, the community who are the people we listen to do not have faith in them at all, especially after what I wrote since it was factual. Invaded is already deteriorating but we can't have the last hope of Invaded in their hands as simply it will really be gone. What I'm trying to say is they should not be manager.
I'm not going to respond to any of your points here as I've debunked these earlier.
You see I have actually worked extremely hard to get staff, it took me around 2 years to turn myself around and be staff worthy. So you clearly aren't seeing yourself from my shoes. I am not letting this go to waste and I actually care about the server. I played the server and enjoy it, I also have many friends that play it. I don't want Invaded to go like this as I do ultimately care for it.
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hi its ksusha.aight. it's been a while since i've written an essay on the forums. i don't even want to partake in fruitless minecraft drama anymore as i've moved on to doing other things (as all of you should too) but i won't let things that aren't true be said about my friends. this is my point of view on what's been going on
first of all i think this is an extremely dumb situation to continue dragging on and that everyone should just move on with their lives, whether that being continuing to play the server or not continuing to play the server. i don't want to start shit and i know some of y'all (the main ones i'm concerned for are my close friends, which i hope this won't change things between us even though i know it will, although it really shouldn't have gone this far) are gonna get pissed at me over this but i'm tired of sitting and watching untruths get spread about my friends when i honestly believe they don't deserve it.
not true, and i'm only saying what she has told me directly, and she said that she was uncomfortable continuing to make flirty jokes with you (as you guys did tend to flirt all the time) due to you talking to girls irl. she told me that you got very pissed off at her and started to argue with her over it, despite there being no real reason to as you were both clear about not wanting to e-date. there's nothing wrong with wanting to stop flirting and, as a close friend of hers, i can very confidently say it had nothing to do with luke. she didn't even want to stop being friends, but you were trying to fight with her (apparently) over it and couldn't solve the problem. both of you having poor communication is why your friendship failed, not because of luke.
i'm fairly sure it didn't, as far as i'm aware she only started speaking to you around when we both got staff, which wasn't a year ago. it lasted more like 5ish months tbh but i could be wrong
it was a running joke within our (me, the girl, and luke's) friend group to joke about our relationships and even get advice from each other regarding our irl and online endeavors. we were all v close and liked to joke abt shit and tell each other to not edate random internet kids as all 3 of us had a history of doing so. there was honestly nothing weird about it from either her or my point of view and i'm honestly disappointed you'd use her to attempt to ruin lukes reputation when, as far as i know, you were the one to fight with her when she calmly wanted to stop flirting with you. luke, again, had nothing to do with that decision
he did not do anything of the sort- again, as a very close friend of hers, i can confidently say she did this on her own without consulting anyone about it (not even me) until after. he didn't even know she blocked you until he read this thread. you and i both know she's impulsive and does things for sometimes no reason, and blocking you was one of these things. when she explained it to me she said that she just wanted to move on since you guys weren't reconciling. which again, to my knowledge, was because you were being rude for what i've been told was for no reason other than due to you overreacting to her setting boundaries. boundaries are healthy and important to have and should be respected, and you also violated my boundaries (which i'll get to later). that along with seeing how you spoke so spitefully of her and insulted her whenever you wanted to talk about the situation with me, made me find it very believable that she didn't lie to me
if you want to continue arguing that it was because of him, i'd like to see evidence proving your theory as i've honestly seen nothing at all that indicates your statement is true. it's unfair to the community (whom you're trying to prove to that luke is evil and manipulative) that you have nothing to back this claim up
this is extremely over-exaggerated and you know it is. i wish you wouldn't use your former friends for your own personal gain like this. there was no "reassuring" needed regarding you and her's friendship, and all of it was jokes. you're making him out to be some creepy guy who's infatuated with teenagers' e-relationships when he clearly isn't and has never been.
again, i've been told directly from the friend that it was you who fought with her and caused the problems when all she wanted was to have boundaries. i saw no evidence of anything else but that, but i still wanted to be friends with you despite all of it. the whole situation with you and her fighting made me extremely uncomfortable as i was basically the middle-man and i feel like i should mention that while she respected my boundaries to not speak about it and to just leave it alone and move on (as hearing my friends talk shit about each other made me upset), you would consistently bring it up and pressure me into telling you "information" about what she had been saying etc and not dropping the topic despite me asking you to multiple times as it made me upset. you guys were my closest friends at that time, and having to hear you insult her every day (for a certain period of time, it eventually stopped) was so draining for me
i'm not saying any of this because i hate you or dislike you, i genuinely enjoy being friends with you and having each other to confide in about our milestones and secrets and just being able to vibe together as you've been arguably one of my more closer friends for a long time. but i hope you'll understand (as you mentioned one of your core values being loyalty) that i can't sit back and see a situation regarding all my closest friends be falsified like this.
moving on from that bit,
this is not true at all. all they wanted was to help the server as they truly care for it and i see nothing wrong with that. they stood up against him with you & fought just as hard as you did, and when they received manager they took a larger role in running things from affixes and affixes took a large step back (as he should've done a long time ago) because of them while they worked to make better changes. when there was something they didn't agree with, they told him and if he wouldn't comply they knew they were going to quit. that doesn't seem very pet-like to me.
all of you also claimed to really love the community and the server, but and then got upset that they were trying to make an effort to keep it going? i never understood the logic and when i asked for a better explanation of your thought process, i was always told that if i didn't immediately understand it that i was never going to get it.
as i said before, i was consistently told by them that affixes knew that if he didn't comply with how they wanted to run things, they would quit. they were just trying to help the server and took a large amount of running it from his hands (again, because they didn't agree with how he ran things and wanted to do things better because they genuinely cared for the community and wanted to give you guys what you wanted, not what affixes wanted) before his demotion occurred. they wanted him gone and disagreed with him as much as anyone else did?
i think now is the prime time to remind everyone that kvids and zack willingly resigned, citing specifically that they didn't want to be here anymore and didn't want to give the server another chance. it isn't luke nor lumboc's fault that affixes was a shitty manager and they should stop being blamed for it
for context regarding their resignation, we had this extremely long staff meeting where we told affixes every little detail that he needed to improve upon in order to be a better manager. immediately after the meeting, kvids and zack assured affixes they still wanted to resign and didn't want to give affixes or the server any more chances and specifically stated that they wanted to focus on IRL stuff anyways, which is completely reasonable. but when other people, who are just as genuinely dedicated and caring as they were are promoted afterward, everyone is suddenly upset at them and blaming them? let's think about this in a proactive way. what did you want to happen? what would've been better? y'all keep saying "BRING BACK ZACK AND KVIDS!" but they have said themselves on multiple occasions that they think the server is dying, is a waste of time and that they don't want to come back, so that's not a realistic case to continue making when hating on luke and lumboc. i see no issue in those two wanting to try to keep the server running and i hope others can agree that there was clearly no malicious intent involved in this. as people who log on and play the server every day, i think you guys can decide for yourselves that you'd rather have two people who have been around for years at the head of the server (being led by hayech as well- so they aren't even running it alone) rather than the server not being alive at all. i just don't understand why this is such a big deal lmao. you say you care for the server and want the best for everyone, but you've made it extremely clear you'd prefer it dead than have *anyone* be a manager
considering that multiple former staff members had abused their perms, i don't see the fact that they wanted to question those who had given their alts gmc in the past (which they saw with logs) as being a disturbing decision. they were prioritizing the security of the server, and i get that it may have been insulting, but it was also insulting when you interrogated me for information regarding the situation with the former friend and other various things which i won't name here. i'm not saying this to make you look bad, but to help you understand their pov when they called you asking questions and then comparing it to when you did something very similar with me because i really do want you to have a better understanding
never ever did i get angry with you over any of our issues nor did i hold anything against you despite the multiple situations where you wanted to fight, either with me or with my other friends. i just wanted to, and still want to just chill. i'm not saying any of this to fight with you, but to just share my point of view and give my thoughts as i think a lot of this was twisted into falsehoods.
yes, lumboc may be more of a "yes man" when it comes to things but he does have experience owning and managing servers and working with files, etc. he may not make the best decisions on his own or have the most extravagant or successful ideas, but he still can help and does help behind the scenes whereas others might not have as much experience. i see no issues having someone on the team who's willing to help and knows (sort of) how to ?
this is my most important question in this whole shitty reply that i'm writing, and i'm asking this to be proactive and to also understand: what do you want to come from this? what do you personally think will help the server most?
if you can't give a proper, decently fleshed out, helpful idea for this, then it's clear that you're solely trying to continue drama and not trying to find any sort of solution for the server
I don't mind criticism whatsoever, especially against people who have actually done something wrong, and if you had gone the extra mile and found solutions and made suggestions on how to move forward, i probably wouldn't have written a reply at all, but you went about this in the wrong way.
i also feel the need to clarify before someone says something about this, none of what i've written is criticizing you for resigning. that's completely up to you and is your choice. i'm only criticizing what you've written here to hurt my friends' reputations.
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a couple of replies to the other replies before i go to sleep:
(would've done more but its 12am on a school night and i'm so over this)
all i can really say for everyone (and this isn't just for you) is don't be a sheep, instead, you should formulate your own opinions and ideas before hopping on the bandwagon. a lot of people in this comm are consistently doing this and hopping back and forth based on one-sided stories and instead should be more patient before freaking out and deciding you hate random people when you don't actually know what happened. no hate to anyone but this is tiring and completely pointless, especially for those who are towards the end of their teenage years and have more important things that they should be worrying about (specifically non-minecraft drama related things)
dont hate on della man tf did she do to u
oh, i see now.? yikes bro
i'm going to be brutally honest here and say that if you're acting petty like this and openly putting her down her solely because you've been envious of her position, i don't blame them at all for denying you. i would also like to add that some of the former staff members who aren't around anymore didn't want you to be staff either and were vocal about it to higher-ups, so it's not just management who was wanting to hold you back looool so don't be bitter at only them
(her getting staff and others not making it didn't have anything to do with capacity btw. nobody was denied so that she could become staff, she got it because she's experienced and has proven over the years that she's capable. it's not just bc she's female. i can smell the misogyny from here bro)
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some closing thoughts that i want to add for everyone who's watching this pointless shitshow go down (some things being unrelated to this thread but since other than this i'm probably not gonna post many other things, i may as well just throw my final reflections in here)
- some/most of the people you (the community) are saying would do a better job and should come back and replace the current team blatantly abused before leaving. i'm not gonna get into it tbh but you say they care for the server and the community but a lot of them really don't lol
- constructive criticism is powerful. if you don't like something or someone, add a solution into what you're writing and it'll make your argument so so much stronger. again i wouldn't have written anything had this been the case the entire time
- again don't be a sheep, formulate your own opinions and go against the grain if you genuinely believe that it's the right thing to do
- stop wit da block game drama and move on, i promise you'll feel a million times better
hope the people who know me will be able to recognize that none of this comes from a place of malice and only comes from a place of care and honesty. lov u guys no matta what, hope we can all move past this
also sorry if something doesn't make sense, it's late. gn y'all
so i completely agree with ash. in all honesty i wish that it had not come to making an invaded forum post. the only rsn i am making one is bcs i will not stand to have luke be put in the middle of our argument. luke had nothing to do w me blocking you. we were not friends for a year, as ash said we started talking at the start of summer or a lil earlier. our friend group (ash, luke, and me) did have our inside jokes abt edating and what not but none of us took it literally. we gave eachother advice regarding dating or smth like that bcs we all have experience edating (became inside jokes). i find it very disrespectful that you used me in order to make luke look bad. also how you had to put ashlyn in the middle of it is pathetic. when she told me that you were nonstop talking bad abt me, esp when she told you to stop is so rude. you have known ash long enough to understand that she is sensitive and hates being dragged into irrelevant drama. honestly i also find it rly upsetting how you had so little trust in me that you thought i would leak dms. that just goes to show what kind of person you are. again, luke had nothing to do with me blocking you everywhere, that was all my choice. i was planning on quitting discord, minecraft, etc; which i did end up doing, so i saw no point in keeping you around. i hope you understand that all online friendships end.. and going on the forums to rant abt it while blaming it on one of my close friends is extremely childish. ik its rude but i simply got bored of you.
i do not plan on talking to you again. and next time dont go on the forums spreading inaccurate info, esp abt my close friends just bcs you cant handle getting dropped. @Krypto
guess everyone has their own prefrences
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not tryna get involved with some "fruitless minecraft drama" but i'm pretty sure that leaking dms is something you've always done lol
I am not going to reply to this as I can't take you seriously right now. It's obvious Luke has gotten to your head and from previous experiences you are the type of person to easily be influenced. I did not use you to make Luke look bad, I kept the situation anonymous as what he did was actually bad but clearly you don't understand it because you're so full of yourself. This is an immature response and I don't think you deserve any response tbh.
The info was accurate, you are just good friends with him that you are claiming it to be inaccurate. Says the one being childish you said 'I couldn't handle being dropped', well clearly you can't handle making your own opinons.
make @Cringe Edaters manager and problem solved
I swear you tried to get "harmful" ppl on my boy sterf LOL + you got folded by haysem HAYSEM please shush ty.
All in all the person we want a reply from for this thread is @LukeLovesCandy lol.
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