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FalseProphet said:
Yes im sure bill cosby and epstein also donated to charity. Doesnt make either of them good people lmaoooo. Im critiquing someone who advertises to children. Actually on page 3 I critiqued MANY people and organisations that advertise to children. I also called his queue system horseshit a couple times. The best counter arguments are these 2 long ass posts on page 3 and 5 i think, they actually did a pretty good job of arguing so props to them.
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If people help him fund his events by buying ranks, then they deserve a priority or perk
 
WickedAvtaar said:
Right so at first I believed you didn't understand some of the things I said, but it turns out you weren't actually reading them but instead occupying yourself counting how many times I used a word.
Actually my counting was my uses of the word sociopath vs psychopath and your ignorance of the ratio. Like pointing out a few clouds and claiming the sky is white because 2:14 are white bits.
however I appreciate that you finally made it clear that your opinion on things won't really change, just wish you had stated this earlier, from your first thread so I didn't indulge in a pointless argument where you're not even reading half the things being said
That was a lie lmao I cut out anything I already argued against, no point in repeating myself to have the staff close my thread

Now since you finally actually came to your true point of "advertisements" being wrong and specifically for little kids who could be influenced easily. Let's just say a few words: Now your argument doesn't just extend to one youtuber in particular it extends to a bigger group of people.
100% true
Then it is reasonable for me to expect that you're not just making this thread on InvadedLands, but many other platforms as well.
After a while you give up on expecting change, im making this point to prove a point. Youll see when the video comes out. People get defensive and in the mood to argue over useless true statements.
This actually has two aspects to it, something like being two faces of the same coin. While some ads may make you feel inadequate about yourself until you buy whatever they're selling, you need to also see that all businesses to flourish require some extent of advertising. Yes youtubers influence people to do a variety of things: intentionally or unintentionally, but we can't really shove all the blame on them as such if their viewers start doing stupid stuff.
In this case you are right, shoving the blame on skeppy when the entire gaming community is to blame is wrong. In other cases such as the logan paul incident or the several twitch incidents this year, it is 100% okay to blame the content creater 100% for their actions
It's perfectly ok to advertise, but again nothing I say would change your opinion so you might as well just drop this.
Already agreed with you here but ill do it again in case you missed it. Yes it is ok to advertise. No what skeppy is doing isnt ok.
When we talk about an age group of 13+, most of them are old enough to realise atleast the very basic of how things work in the actual world;
Sometimes, othertimes even 17 year olds can be as immature and naive as 8 year olds. Especially when it comes to the real world. Its about perceptive.
you need not to worry about any kid spending something wrongly or being misguided when they have their parents watching over them.
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You are correct but if you think parents have the slightest clue of anything going on around them... How many children are depressed w/o their parents knowing? How many kids are sending sexual photos without their parents knowing? How many kids have gotten high or drunk without their parents knowing? How many kids have spent money on something without their parents knowing What makes this different? The answer is probably 100%. 100% of children fit in at least one of those categories.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------highlighted this becuase I think its important everyone understands it. Parents are no where near as involved as you think, just cus your parents were one way doesnt mean others weren't different.
Nobody no matter what age was forced or excessively provoked to go buy something from him, nobody was scammed from something they bought from him.
Sure, ill agree to disagree here.
It just seems that you have deluded and convinced yourself of certain things, without actually thinking them through and relating them with the everyday world. Now onto your EULA statement, again it's something that you need not worry about getting adressed. Mojang isn't blind, they know how general servers operate and it is said they have blacklisted servers with excessive p2w. If someone violates the EULA excessively it's in Mojang's interest and business to see what they want to do about it.
Cut out you questioning the relevance of the EULA because I seem to be targeting skeppys youtube rather then the server.
You are right but id like 2 point out 2 reasons for my doing so. Take a look through the forums, posts targeting the integrity of the server get closed pretty quick. The second reason is of course the fans coming to defend skeppy making my replies be about him instead of bigger issues at hand.

Also like to point out that although Mojang doesnt seem to give a shit, wasnt IL blacklisted once for being p2w? They were supposed to change and here we are again.
Lastly I'd like to add that it seems that this argument is going nowhere and as you have already said your opinion would remain unchanged no matter what , so I find any further argument pointless. You've made yourself pretty clear.
Cheers to this.
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Anything bolded and underlined is me I think, im kinda mentally exhausted rn after a physics test and really dont know if I made any weird spelling or even general argument mistakes but ill hope for the best.
 
Atasuki said:
If people help him fund his events by buying ranks, then they deserve a priority or perk
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Also already debunked this. Without any ranks or without taking into account the hundreds of thousands of subs hes gaining every week and of new views. These are his numbers before quarantine (before his views doubled/month)
Essentially 5k a day x 7 days a week = 35k a week
He spends 3k on those events a week
35k - 3k = 32k
Therefore he has a net earning of 32k a week. Probably doubled now but lets pretend it hasnt. 32k a week x 52 weeks in a year = 1.664 million. More than most peoples entire families combined.
 
FalseProphet said:
Also already debunked this. Without any ranks or without taking into account the hundreds of thousands of subs hes gaining every week and of new views. These are his numbers before quarantine (before his views doubled/month)
Essentially 5k a day x 7 days a week = 35k a week
He spends 3k on those events a week
35k - 3k = 32k
Therefore he has a net earning of 32k a week. Probably doubled now but lets pretend it hasnt. 32k a week x 52 weeks in a year = 1.664 million. More than most peoples entire families combined.
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Skeppy pays taxes... And pays for this server (I think so anyways, the server costs thousands monthly). Those do take a significant chunk. And you have to understand that skeppy doesn't exist for myself and your pleasure, he also keeps money for himself. More about taxes: the more you give away, the more taxes get expensive - it's something that mrbeast already with but on a larger scale
Also where are you getting these numbers from? Social blade is just an estimate and cannot account for adblockers, actual average watchtime, how many ads were viewed in the video and other factors. Got any definite source?
 
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FalseProphet said:
source? As far as I could tell the majority of his vids have ads in them.
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most videos are either copy right claimed or is demonetized since you tubes algorithm is fucking atrocious it may seem like he has ads but they will either be gone soon or is copyrighted
 
FalseProphet said:
Anything bolded and underlined is me I think, im kinda mentally exhausted rn after a physics test and really dont know if I made any weird spelling or even general argument mistakes but ill hope for the best.
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Ok Cool. No argument as stated before, primarily because I don't understand what your first three points are trying to convey , but as you said that you were drained from the test, so no matter. Other reasons would be that your arguments either apply to a minority(being 17 years and that level of immaturity) or have nothing to do with the original argument(children getting high being compared to buying stuff on a server) Lastly a lot of it also opinion based so yeah.. No point arguing with you. Peace.
Hope your test went well.
 
Atowclicker said:
Please in the love of god lock this post. You are the type of guy who will keep arguing even if you are proven wrong.
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???????? Yet I have proven anyone that came up with an argument wrong. Yes 2 people had decent points but besides @WickedAvtaar no one had any actually good points and even his points are opinionated rather than factual. The best "debunk" is based on a misunderstanding of certain topics in my argument and the misuse of words. Make a chart of my arguments and where they were "proven wrong". Make sure you read the whole topic. Id love to see it.
 
Japan___ said:
most videos are either copy right claimed or is demonetized since you tubes algorithm is fucking atrocious it may seem like he has ads but they will either be gone soon or is copyrighted
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So theyre gone because you said so? cool. Despite the fact that I proved you wrong, you continue to "no cus I said so and I cant be wrong".
 
Premintex said:
Skeppy pays taxes... And pays for this server (I think so anyways, the server costs thousands monthly). Those do take a significant chunk. And you have to understand that skeppy doesn't exist for myself and your pleasure, he also keeps money for himself. More about taxes: the more you give away, the more taxes get expensive - it's something that mrbeast already with but on a larger scale
Also where are you getting these numbers from? Social blade is just an estimate and cannot account for adblockers, actual average watchtime, how many ads were viewed in the video and other factors. Got any definite source?
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What. What were you going for in this? Trying to find excuses or sound smart. Like I deadass cant tell. Socialblade????? Im not the person bringing up socialblade. That was some random braindead person trying to chime in.
Sources on the 2.5-5k figure.
statsmash.com

Skeppy YouTube Statistics - Detailed subs and views

The most detailed YouTube Stats and facts about Skeppy. Find out subscriber statistics and more.
statsmash.com statsmash.com
Pre Quarantine stats: https://naibuzz.com/how-much-money-skeppy-makes-on-youtube-net-worth/
Calculations yourself: https://millennialmoney.com/how-much-do-youtubers-make/
All of these end up roughly around 3-5k a day from youtube alone.
 
FalseProphet said:
What. What were you going for in this? Trying to find excuses or sound smart. Like I deadass cant tell. Socialblade????? Im not the person bringing up socialblade. That was some random braindead person trying to chime in.
Sources on the 2.5-5k figure.
statsmash.com

Skeppy YouTube Statistics - Detailed subs and views

The most detailed YouTube Stats and facts about Skeppy. Find out subscriber statistics and more.
statsmash.com statsmash.com
Pre Quarantine stats: https://naibuzz.com/how-much-money-skeppy-makes-on-youtube-net-worth/
Calculations yourself: https://millennialmoney.com/how-much-do-youtubers-make/
All of these end up roughly around 3-5k a day from youtube alone.
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what, that's how celebrity life goes. If he spends 1,000 dollars every day (he has events every day) take that chunk out of your numbers. also, is there something wrong with profiting? there was no scam, you got what you paid for. Realistically no kid who doesn't know what they're paying for will be able to pay for it without parental permission. The parents can obviously afford it too, and allow their children to do it. Please shut up and lock this post. This is the post that proves you wrong. You might go on some irrelevant tangent about opinions. This is not an opinion, this is straight up facts.
 
FalseProphet said:
Yes im sure bill cosby and epstein also donated to charity. Doesnt make either of them good people lmaoooo. Im critiquing someone who advertises to children. Actually on page 3 I critiqued MANY people and organisations that advertise to children. I also called his queue system horseshit a couple times. The best counter arguments are these 2 long ass posts on page 3 and 5 i think, they actually did a pretty good job of arguing so props to them.
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wtf
 
FalseProphet said:
What. What were you going for in this? Trying to find excuses or sound smart. Like I deadass cant tell. Socialblade????? Im not the person bringing up socialblade. That was some random braindead person trying to chime in.
Sources on the 2.5-5k figure.
statsmash.com

Skeppy YouTube Statistics - Detailed subs and views

The most detailed YouTube Stats and facts about Skeppy. Find out subscriber statistics and more.
statsmash.com statsmash.com
Pre Quarantine stats: https://naibuzz.com/how-much-money-skeppy-makes-on-youtube-net-worth/
Calculations yourself: https://millennialmoney.com/how-much-do-youtubers-make/
All of these end up roughly around 3-5k a day from youtube alone.
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- Explaining how the 5000 dollars a day doesn't go straight to skeppys pocket. You seem to have dismissed all of that just to call me out for being smart. These are not excuses, these are legitimate things that happen, since as far as I know mega and zelk don't pay for the server and skeppy isn't committing tax fraud.
The social blade thing was meant to sound like a question, wasn't actually trying to attack your points. Sorry if it sounded that way. Thanks for the source.
 
FalseProphet said:
Skeppy has been scamming kids for nearly a couple months now and deserves all the bad karma coming for him. When i stated that he must have psychopathic or sociopathic tendencies to be able to do what he does, I was muted for an hour. I dont entirely disagree with the mute but id love to have a convo with whoever muted me.

Ill agree to disagree, if you have a higher up rank, youre entitled to be on your knees for the youtuber making your server famous. But muting me and pushing me towards further consequence is not the way to go. Mute players running scams like the "bounty wars" rather than those speaking the truth.
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so? ive been banned for speaking (making a sign) the truth about imonmolly (a survival thing) for 3 days. a 1 hour mute is nothing
 
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