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uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 
Never thought I would be siding with Zettro lol (Note: Tried to keep this as short as possible without going into details)

•Log on, sit afk in the hub for a few hours, occasionally join kitpvp (doing more or less no moderation whilst on it), and then log off until the cycle repeats a couple days later

•Have been staff long enough to be promoted to senior moderator yet still need guidance from newer moderators on topics that should be common sense for any staff member, let alone one with seniority

•Consistently devote time and energy into being toxic & hostile towards pretty much every single other staff member and oftentimes even players – including multiple instances of suicide encouragement directed at those with known mental health struggles

•Rarely log on, and when they do, it's simply to perform requests from discord and then log off again rather than to actually do their job (moderate the server whilst balancing their time between forums work and in-game work)
I find it funny how you didn't bring any of this up when you were staff, don't know if you let the Managers know either. Don't get me wrong I wasn't ever staff so I don't know what mods did/didn't do. It's quite clear you're referring to Decay and I just find it odd thrashing him even after he's been blacklisted and forum banned. I also find it rather odd that you're saying all these things without backing them up, I find it quite hypocritical as you state this a little later
If you have any evidence of this that isn't an out-of-context screenshot, I'd be happy to see it and give this point some credibility.


And then there's this
being toxic & hostile towards pretty much every single other staff member and oftentimes even players – including multiple instances of suicide encouragement directed at those with known mental health struggles

I agree with everything you've said here, a staff member shouldn't behave like this at all, I just don't get why you condone periys' actions toward Aviv fine and this unacceptable

Periys is a wonderful staff member who can actually do his job

Idk If thats 100% accurate taking into account all the accusations made against him. He still has yet to come out with a response to all of this, not necessarily because he is guilty of what has been accused of him, just to clear up all the drama.


Now moving on to your follow-up post
1) I'm not quite sure where you're getting the idea that he regularly talks shit about his superiors. If you have any evidence of this that isn't an out-of-context screenshot, I'd be happy to see it and give this point some credibility.
Shit talking someone who has put so much time and effort into the server you staff on, let alone anyone else, is a disgusting thing to do. I don't care if you did it one time or if you do it all the time.

Also the evidence hasn't made it out of the staff team for obvious reasons, you might've seen it firsthand as you were staff back when this took place.


2) Periys was not the one who reported them.
If you have any evidence of this that isn't an out-of-context screenshot, I'd be happy to see it and give this point some credibility.

I'm unsure of who/what this is referring to, so if you'd like to inform me of the situation without bias nor exaggeration perhaps it would hold some weight with me. However, I doubt you can do so as throughout this entire thread the majority - if not all - of your posts/responses have been biased, exaggerated, or both.
Refer to @Joyoy0 's post.

I know we were friends back when you actually used to play Invaded, but some of the things you said in your posts seemed really dumb to me.
 
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ok but your saying its ok for periys to go behind his superiors backs, talk shit about them, then report people for doing the same thing? makes a lot of sense. Also obnoxious trolling? wtf LMAO, i didnt know that trolling someone was muteable, nor did i think i could get muted for asking if i would be able to use my reclaim after using it in dev kit. Also i agree that a staff member should go drunk in a pub vc and then mute ppl for asking questions

also sorry to say this but u asked for it

i didnt think good moderators charge backed on people xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxdddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

edit: also do good staff members, after being told that someone is dealing with a mental illness, blacklist them for a very dumb reason for something they said in a vc that was not harmful to anyone? its not like he made a threat or something. @ staff pls add no making noises in calls and if you do its blacklistable to the rules pls and thank you.
free deciple
 
probably because she is scared of more backlash. I don't blame her, considering what has already been done to her.
That's a really dumb reason to not come out until someone has been punished. If they really knew about all of this, then why didn't they report Decay?
And if they did report Decay, they definitely didn't do it whilst they were both staff

I'm also wondering why, out of all times, they've decided to criticize the staff who got demoted instead of taking it up with them privately (which would've been 100x more professional/mature) after one of them got "exposed" with old proof that isn't even linked to invaded
 
I'm unsure of who/what this is referring to, so if you'd like to inform me of the situation without bias nor exaggeration perhaps it would hold some weight with me. However, I doubt you can do so as throughout this entire thread the majority - if not all - of your posts/responses have been biased, exaggerated, or both.

not sure if you skipped over this or not but that's what @FrostyyMC and @Akatusuki are referring to above
 
Won't be responding to things that have either already been addressed or aren't worth the energy replying to due to peoples' lack of either common sense, maturity, or both lol


he admitted to being drunk when he muted me so yah im 99% sure that moderating when ur drunk is not a good idea.
If that's truly the case then yes, I agree that such behaviour would be a large mistake on Periys' part. I wasn't present for this and obviously nobody would admit to being dishonest - whether you or him - so I'll remain neutral on this belief-wise.

what did u get from charging back on him? nothing, u legit just appeal it and it goes away it was insanely stupid to chargeback on someone to get back at them, it does almost nothing.
It wasn't done to "get back at" him nor was it any form of revenge/pettiness/ill-intent/etc. It was literally something within my legal right to do. No, I won't be explaining the in-depth details, as at this point I don't even know what I'm allowed to disclose let alone what I want to disclose.

im refering to multiple people informing periys that bbh has a mental illness and that he will continue to do what he does and what he does it is not meant in a harmful manner, then periys acts as if he understands this, then goes ahead and blacklists him for a noise he made in a public call, that is very fair.
Bbh was warned several times that his behaviour was unacceptable. Developmental disorders* (not mental illnesses, they are vastly different.) are not a get-out-of-jail-free card. Only so many chances can be given, no matter if you are intentionally making the same mistakes again or not. Even though he may not have wanted to cause harm, he still caused quite a bit of it. He was not blacklisted for "making a noise in a call", he was blacklisted for EXCESSIVE unacceptable behaviour. I sympathize with him as it isn't entirely in his control, however his blacklist was absolutely justified.


I find it funny how you didn't bring any of this up when you were staff, don't know if you let the Managers know either. Don't get me wrong I wasn't ever staff so I don't know what mods did/didn't do.
Some of these things I brought up as they were genuinely concerning/important, others were less important and so I didn't feel the need to bring it up - especially not
publicly. The only reason I've brought them up now is to show that nobody is a "perfect" staff member and literally every single one will have their flaws and make their mistakes.

It's quite clear you're referring to Decay and I just find it odd thrashing him even after he's been blacklisted and forum banned. I also find it rather odd that you're saying all these things without backing them up, I find it quite hypocritical as you state this a little later

Actually, only one of those points was about decay and it wasn't something I was entirely concerned with during my time as staff. The points I brought up were not made to bash on certain staff members, current or previous - they were brought up to prove my point above, hence why I left them anonymous and for players to figure out who I was referring to if they wanted to do so. I don't feel a need to provide evidence for these things as again, I'm not looking to bash on any former nor current staff members. My point was about the flaws/mistakes/concerns, not about the people associated with them.



I agree with everything you've said here, a staff member shouldn't behave like this at all, I just don't get why you condone periys' actions toward Aviv fine and this unacceptable
I don't condone taking advantage of someone with a developmental disorder and/or making fun of someone with one. Periys, to my knowledge, did neither. Blacklisting aviv was literally just him doing his job, it wasn't some random act of malice.

Idk If thats 100% accurate taking into account all the accusations made against him. He still has yet to come out with a response to all of this, not necessarily because he is guilty of what has been accused of him, just to clear up all the drama.
Based off of my first-hand personal experiences working with Periys, I can say with confidence that he does his job and he does it well. My opinion on this is unlikely to change as I'm more than aware that these accusations either are exaggerated, have already been dealt with & improved upon, or are just straight up false.

Shit talking someone who has put so much time and effort into the server you staff on, let alone anyone else, is a disgusting thing to do. I don't care if you did it one time or if you do it all the time.

Also the evidence hasn't made it out of the staff team for obvious reasons, you might've seen it firsthand as you were staff back when this took place.
I partially agree with you depending on the level of severity. Offhandedly complaining about something that someone does or has done - which is what I'm assuming the incident(s) of "shit talking" were based on what I saw when interacting with the staff team - really isn't that big of a deal. Personally, I have never seen nor heard Periys be genuinely toxic to/about an admin nor a manager so I have no reason to believe that he has done so unless I'm shown evidence of it.

If you have any evidence of this that isn't an out-of-context screenshot, I'd be happy to see it and give this point some credibility.

I was not directly involved in the situation that resulted in S0V/lauren/epic getting demoted so I myself don't have any screenshots, though if you genuinely care I can ask the person who actually reported it to come forward about it (though I doubt they would want to as obviously the community doesn't take kindly to people who "snitch")

I know we were friends back when you actually used to play Invaded, but some of the things you said in your posts seemed really dumb to me.
I'm sorry you see them that way, however it's your opinion and you're entitled to thinking it.

@Neptune888 would never bring this up when she was staff / when decay was not forums banned
As explained above, the examples I provided were not about decay with the exception of one minor thing which was no more than a small annoyance at times so I didn't care to bring it up with management. The things I actually cared about (none of which concerned decay) were brought up when I was staff, just not to the playerbase.

That's a really dumb reason to not come out until someone has been punished. If they really knew about all of this, then why didn't they report Decay?
And if they did report Decay, they definitely didn't do it whilst they were both staff
Read above

I'm also wondering why, out of all times, they've decided to criticize the staff who got demoted instead of taking it up with them privately (which would've been 100x more professional/mature) after one of them got "exposed" with old proof that isn't even linked to invaded
The examples I used in my initial response to this thread were not active criticisms against staff members, they were simply anon flaws that were used to emphasize the point that people are quite biased in their view on staff. As I mentioned before, every single staff member will have flaws and make mistakes. Why is periys being singled out for making minor mistakes as though every other staff member is/was perfect?
 
This thread is currently just an argument between multiple individuals so i'm going to go ahead and lock it. I'd just like to say, with no offense intended, none of you know the full situation. At the end of the day both sides can leave things out, and both can have different views. What I can tell you is that the people involved do not want you to harass or bash the others. They have all discussed their point of views and are more understanding about each others thoughts and concerns. I ask of you all to stop making assumptions, and to keep your opinions about the staff members to yourselves. I understand how the evidence looks, but I can assure you everyone on the team is subject to the same consequences as everyone else. We all are currently working on becoming closer not only as a team but as friends. There are things in place to help us do this and it should be very beneficial for the staff team and community. I can promise you it's all love between all of us, and if we are okay with them after knowing all the details you should be too. All love.
 
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