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Lonewulfx3 said:
oh no did you get the infamous "denied" or did you get something insightful?
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ApexWasabi said:
If you see the message "denied.", you either applied without checking the requirements, or you did not put enough detail into your application. We do not give out detailed feedback to those who do not read the requirements or if you make a troll application. You may reapply next season after your denial. Often we see players making public complaint thread or a rage post in regards to their application denial; This action is strongly discouraged as it doesn't give any positive effect to your future applications.
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Even though this is for staff applications, using common sense and analyzing this statement, this could be used as to explain why it would just say "Denied" for a Blacklist appeal, as they treat both application denials somewhat the same. Also read the last part about making posts about denials.

Don't make threads about appeals.

@Decay - ?
 
Lonewulfx3 said:
No that's just wrong. There is a big difference between staff application. Namely the knowledge you have when you make them. When you make a staff application you know the requirements and you know yourself and if you fulfill those requirements. You also know why you would bring positives to the team.

While with a ban/ blacklist appeal the things you know are are completely different. Often you do not know why you're blacklisted/banned (if you're falsely blacklisted/banned that is). So making a detailed app without really knowing what you did wrong is impossible. It's out of the realms of possibilities. Even if you make a detailed app explaining all the reasons why you think you're innocent then that may seem even more suspicious since you're implying that you think you're banned for xyz. As stated in many times in zelks ban app videos. If someone says they weren't autoclicking for x then Zelk says it's suspicious that they know they were banned for autoclicking.

It's for these reasons that a denied on a blacklist appeal doesn't have anything to do with the content of the appeal (unless you made a really bad one). But simply getting a denied is really uninformative. I've had this happen in Hypixel where I was falsely banned for stat boosting. When I looked at the reasons why you would be banned for stat boosting (so looking at the rules) none of the things seemed to apply to me. But yet when I appealed they insta denied me and just referred me back to the rules page while simply saying 'denied'. This gave me no information whatsoever and even today I don't know what I did wrong.

So claiming that it is because you didn't make a detailed enough appeal or that you didn't meet the requirements is just wrong. Don't take a staffs word out of context. Apex is talking about staff applications here. Nowhere has he stated that this extends to any other type of appeal. You extrapolated this information not apex.


Common sense is a very subjective thing. I'd say that if we explicitly describe all the things that we find common sense that there would be many conflicting ideas between the two of us and definitely between everybody else.



He's talking about complain threads and rage threads. This thread clearly is neither. This is why I heavily dislike you trying to lock every thread where a ban/blacklist appeal is even mentioned. Not every thread is a rage or complain thread. Sometimes you just want support from the community or want to talk about what happened or in this case just say goodbye to the server.
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too lazy to respond to this, but ok boomer. had to acknowledge my presence or aiht will say i'm ignoring
 
Lonewulfx3 said:
Why? If you're not going to say anything useful why say anything at all. Didn't you make a whole thread about people post boosting?


Great argument tho.
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that isn't post boosting what i said. just cause i didn't argue back doesn't mean i am post boosting, it was my response to what i had to say. like i said before i could care less to post boost at this point, i have almost 800 messages and probably like 600-650 of those are actual full length responses/reports. i wasn't trying to argue with you. i responded to the kid who asked the question, not u. i am done arguing with people at this point. it's pointless because it always gets thrown in my face later for no reason. now that i'm not arguing you guys complain. it's like i can never win. if you are seeking an argument i am no longer that person.
 
1pick said:
that isn't post boosting what i said. just cause i didn't argue back doesn't mean i am post boosting, it was my response to what i had to say. like i said before i could care less to post boost at this point, i have almost 800 messages and probably like 600-650 of those are actual full length responses/reports. i wasn't trying to argue with you. i responded to the kid who asked the question, not u. i am done arguing with people at this point. it's pointless because it always gets thrown in my face later for no reason. now that i'm not arguing you guys complain. it's like i can never win. if you are seeking an argument i am no longer that person.
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you need to chill down this isnt english class lmao
 
Lonewulfx3 said:
Yes but you gave what i consider as bad information which I then tried to point out to you so you might reconsider it and change it the next time someone else says something about a blacklist/ ban appeal and you post the same thing again.



Yes I don't like it when you respond with an inane thing like "ok boomer" which doesn't mean anything. Because I did my best to explain why I think the thing you said was wrong. I don't mean to argue to prove that i'm better/smarter than you. I just try to give my honest opinion when I see something I don't agree with. This was not meant to be a personal attack on you. I just try to write everything as clearly as possible since I know I sometimes come across a bit rude.


It was. Just posting something to post something is post boosting is it not?
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was rude to try and start an argument with me to begin with. when writing the quote from apex i never said that is EXACTLY what it meant and i stated that. if you make a troll appeal, several appeals, or lacked detail in appeal they will deny with "Denied". trust me i have had to do 2 ban appeals already for invaded, i know how they work and what goes down on them. I didn't say the whole thing was common sense, I was saying using common sense in relating both "Denied" statements. i could care less to read the rest of what you said because like i said im not trying to argue, you wanted a response so here. happy? :'p
 
Lonewulfx3 said:
Well he didn't say he just posted it because he had to now did he. It also contains new information namely that he thinks your post was a nice one (might be sarcastic tho). Would I consider it a useful post? no. So yeah it falls under post boosting. Still like it better than "ok boomer" and "had to post because otherwise aiht would think I ignored it".
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lmao ok kid. i was saying for the sake of aiht it doesn't matter what i said i could've said i had to say it cause god told me i had to say it or i'd be exiled into hell for all i care. ur putting too much thought into it. it was a simple joke, this is why people have so many issues here is because they take things too literal. sorry if u got hurt i called u a boomer :/
 
1pick said:
was rude to try and start an argument with me to begin with. when writing the quote from apex i never said that is EXACTLY what it meant and i stated that. if you make a troll appeal, several appeals, or lacked detail in appeal they will deny with "Denied". trust me i have had to do 2 ban appeals already for invaded, i know how they work and what goes down on them. I didn't say the whole thing was common sense, I was saying using common sense in relating both "Denied" statements. i could care less to read the rest of what you said because like i said im not trying to argue, you wanted a response so here. happy? :'p
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if you say your not gonna argue why are you still responding no point in beefing over minecraft forums
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