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I don't feel like this needed to be discussed publicly. Even though I respect you for opening up about the situation, especially since you felt treated unfairly. However, it seems like people now have taken your point of view as a fact rather than an experience/opinion. I feel like this only creates more (fair, but some not as fair) hate against current managers. Even if all of your arguments were facts, this wouldn't change anything. Luke and Lumboc would still be managers, but now have to deal with this navigated hate towards them.

Although I can't blame you. The communication in the staff team just seems awful overall. I'm sure you would've handled this offsite with skeppy and other higher ups (idk who else) if you could.
 
I won't bother to reply to anything about krypto but only this.

If you wanna throw hands, then it's showtime.
First of all, I'm not openly putting her down by being vocal and truthful about how I feel with her back as a staff member, I believe she hasn't helped the server at all even during her previous time as a Moderator, which is pretty obvious via her forum messages (Since Nov 2019 when she was mod and up until today she still is below 200 forum posts, kinda insane when a staff member should deal with ban appeals, player reports and helping the community no? Ever since she got Trainee, her message count only went up by 4 messages when there are probably lots of player reports to be handled.



Yeah this was last season when I got denied for immaturity and activity for things I said in MMC's staff chat, I apologised for it and even adjusted my app to contain that information, and re-posted the same thing in my most recent application. I got nothing to hide about that and I apologised for it. But hey guess what, this season, the same people that -1'd me and denied me last season, liked my application and my stance!
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So saying that multiple staff members didn't want me back sounds like false info for me, if it was some it was probably you, luke and god knows who else, but some of them would've liked to work with me in this staff team, believe it or not.



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How would I not be when I've poured my heart and soul when I was a Trainee for this server, I've cleared 1/3 of the stacked up 15 pages of player reports which were months dated there within a few days, well over 150+ reports I handled during my trial period, and over 700+ punishments handed out, and I didn't pass over a small mistake, and she's barely done the bare minimum and had to get an extended trial period of another 1 week or 2 when we had an entire month, only to barely reach the minimum quota of like 200~ punishments. I was even considered one of the best Trainees the server has had in ages (until zacky and kvids came in of course and I highly respect the work they poured into this place being able to work up to Manager of all ranks) and someone like @McDonalds can vouch for this, when I got demoted some people were upset at the management because they saw how dedicated I was to help this server and didn't understand how I got demoted and how others that barely did anything passed.

In my position, you're saying that pouring 10h after 10h everyday being active in-game and on forums, handling reports and being transparent with the community, helping people with what they needed and everything, you would've accepted getting demoted over a small misconduct and would've been happy that someone who did none of this passed because they barely reached the quota to continue on as a Moderator? Sorry but the frustration I felt that day I still know how it feels to this day, and I'm only re-living it once again. Trust me that I didn't want to get to the point where I have to write a huge ass reply about this.

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Had the person not asked for privacy I'd show who it is so you get a better understanding about how I felt when I read this message.


This wasn't serious but aight, I know there's no max capacity for accepted trainees etc lol.


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Kay then, if 185 messages in the span of 2 years and it only went up by like 3 or 4 ever since she got Trainee means she has shown to be capable or experienced then sure, so be it for ya, but in my opinion this ain't it, she's always in vanish and doesn't communicate with the community at all, staff should be all about transparency and being a public figure since you represent this server, but nah sitting in vanish afk-ing is more fun innit.

I used to be on 10h a day during my period and even until late night for EU which is like noon/afternoon for NA, even so she was just afk and was doing nothing, you don't understand lol. again someone like @McDonalds who was there to see my progression can vouch for everything I say here.


I didn't want to have bad blood with you but you pulled this out of nowhere, how come I have something against Della being staff I'm a misogynist but I had nothing against Hamoka, Nicki, you or S0V when they were staff? How come I had nothing against you or them, but I'm instantly a misogynist when I'm upset about Della getting staff back when everyone in the community knows she's been doing nothing of help to the server? How come I don't have anything against Bella for getting Trainee? Please drop the snowflake attitude and assuming such things.
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I don't have anything against her because she's a girl, I have something against the fact that she's staff AGAIN despite not doing anything when she was a mod up until now and she's back again.

And lemme go back on this again


I'm also extremely experienced and you've definitely read my app when I talked about MMC
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I climbed up to this rank within 5 months because they ACTUALLY gave me a chance and allowed me to prove myself, however here? Here I'm held back because of things said and done 2 years ago and 1 year ago. Give me a break.

And I'm no longer replying to you about this, I said my stance and I stated what I had to say. I'm disappointed that you had to go off so hard at me because I personally believe she's not fit for this role, and more at the fact that you called me a misogynist when I had no intent of such. Extremely disappointed.
Waylim
 
Seeing as many of these points are made towards me I thought it would be a good idea to respond. I will not be going into kryptos first point because quite frankly I am unsure exactly of what he is talking about, and regardless it is a personal issue which is best resolved privately rather than publicly. He has never brought any of that to me before now so I wish that he would have discussed it with me and we could have came to an understanding on that point. However, I will respond to anything that I can.

Mass Resignation
This is a very lengthy topic so I'll try to be as brief as possible. During affixes time here, until I was promoted to manager, I had worked very little with him. All I knew was what I was told from Kvids and Zacky. The way it was painted seemed like a very hostile work environment and I agreed that if it came to the last wire I would resign with them. I always had that intention however, when everybody resigned I did not think it was the right time. I made it clear to those two specifically that I did not think all our options were expended. I thought that there was still a way to work everything out with affixes and have them both stay. They however disagreed which is fine. At the end of the day we should respect each other's opinions. Seeing as I did not think it was the right time to resign I decided to stay. I have been staff on this server for over 3 years now and I was not going to give that up until I felt it was my last option. I like to keep an open mind about negative things so I wanted to see what working with affixes was like before I decided to resign with the others. I made this clear to everyone who resigned and at the time they seemed to respect my decision. My plan never was to stay to only get manager. Obviously that is what ended up happening but that was never a guarantee with me staying. When I was offered the position I felt that it was important that I take it. Leaving affixes to be the only manager would not have been good especially if he ended up staying long term which was what I thought was going to happen. Regardless he needed someone who had knowledge of the server and at the time I was the best person to fill that role from the current staff team.

Skill
You mention that you feel Lumboc and I lack the skill and knowledge required to be a manager. While that is a subjective opinion I would like to make a case for myself. While you are correct, for the past few months I have done less blacklist appeals than kvids and zacky. That does not mean that I have never done them. In fact there have been many times during my tenure when I was the primary person doing them. 3 years is a very long time and during those 3 years I have focused on many different aspects of staffing and helping the server as a whole. Zacky and Kvids had blacklist appeals covered at the time which led me to focus on other things such as managing the build team etc. One question I would like to ask is how does doing blacklist appeals make someone fit for manager? Managing is completely different from staffing. This applies not only to servers but to jobs as a whole. Managers manage the system and the team. My skills as a manager do not correlate to how well I can do a blacklist appeal. Obviously doing the grunt work is what earns you the position of manager but trying to make a case that I’ve never put my time into them is just false.

Strength 2s
First off Im not sure who told you we originally thought it was a duels glitch? That was probably something we discussed but we quickly realized that it was most likely someone with gmc access. Also you say we found out who did the dupe in your post? We have never officially found out who did it as there is no way to definitely prove who gave them out. That is why the case was not closed as we were investigating any and all leads we found to figure out who did it. Regarding the strength 2s being on the last map. I was unsure of how exactly the person got them and I did ask about it and it seemed like nobody knew nor had an interest in finding out. There were a lot more pressing things going on at the time so I ended up taking the strength 2s away from the person's inventory and keeping an eye out for anymore as that was all I really could do at the time. I also never used this as a way to accuse you of duping the strength twos. I only told you this information so you could have an explanation as to why we were investigating you. Obviously if your alt gets gmc around when a big dupe happens you're clearly going to be asked about it? Now if I would have used that information to base a conclusion and demote you then I would agree that would be wrong which is why that did not happen. After the talk you were free to continue staffing. Also you say that my focus was solely on figuring out who duped the strength twos. As if me investigating that halts me from making any progress on anything else. There is a lot in the works as of now and my time investigating the strength 2s has not put any of that on hold, nor if I would have stopped investigating would it have been announced or finished anytime sooner. Also with the blacklist, you frame it as if I solely was the one to do this. I actually didn't even give you the blacklist. During a call with the managers we all agreed it was best to remove you from the server until we had a chance to talk to you about the alt having creative. While it may not look the best it looks a whole lot better than having your rank publicly removed for everyone to see. Yes it caused confusion for staff who were unaware of the situation however, removing your rank would have caused a lot more confusion. The blacklist was never intended to stay, it was only a precaution that was needed to figure out what was going on. Also I am not sure why you are under the impression that lumboc had no idea what was going on. He was present in every discussion about this and everything else going on in terms of the future of the server. He is very much aware of everything so I’m not sure why you said that here.

My main question is what exactly have I done that you believe is unfair to you? Other than your first point which is a personal issue that I genuinely still don’t know exactly what your talking about. What steps did I take that you feel I should not have? Should I just have let you pass without a talk after giving an alt gmc? Other than the reason you gave me there genuinely is never a reason to just give your alt gmc and have that account have it for a month. If you had done that any other time I would not have gotten in a call to talk to you about it but I think you can understand that seeing as the alt got creative around when a dupe happened I had to talk to you about it. I understand you believe I have lied about seeing a strength 2 on the previous map. This part of the argument is null because me and you can go back and forth all day about what we feel happened and whether or not there were strength 2s last map but here is what is fact. Even if I did not see those strength 2’s your alt is one of the only very few accounts that had access to possibly dupe. Seeing as you were still on the staff team I am of course going to question you regarding a seemingly careless decision at the time to give your alt gmc. All I did was ask why the account had gmc? When you answered, that was is it. If me asking these simple questions is unfair to you then I’m confused to think what you think would be fair. If any other staff member would have done these things I would have asked them the questions I asked you. I'm genuinely trying to figure out what you think I did poorly. If I truly hated you and was out to get you then why would I have not demoted you for this? Mega probably would have demoted you for the first call I had with you about DI’s. And if not he definitely would have for this whole gmc on an alt thing. However, I am not mega. I wanted to try and find the solution rather than just lose you as a staff member.

I understand that constantly being asked questions about things that concern us is demotivating; however I would not be doing my job as manager if I did not question you about these things. I do actually agree with you that me and all of the present and past managers could do a better job at showing our appreciation for the staff. At the end of the day they are doing this for free and out of their own good will. I personally will make an effort to acknowledge the staff teams good work moving forward.
 
Seeing as many of these points are made towards me I thought it would be a good idea to respond. I will not be going into kryptos first point because quite frankly I am unsure exactly of what he is talking about, and regardless it is a personal issue which is best resolved privately rather than publicly. He has never brought any of that to me before now so I wish that he would have discussed it with me and we could have came to an understanding on that point. However, I will respond to anything that I can.

Mass Resignation
This is a very lengthy topic so I'll try to be as brief as possible. During affixes time here, until I was promoted to manager, I had worked very little with him. All I knew was what I was told from Kvids and Zacky. The way it was painted seemed like a very hostile work environment and I agreed that if it came to the last wire I would resign with them. I always had that intention however, when everybody resigned I did not think it was the right time. I made it clear to those two specifically that I did not think all our options were expended. I thought that there was still a way to work everything out with affixes and have them both stay. They however disagreed which is fine. At the end of the day we should respect each other's opinions. Seeing as I did not think it was the right time to resign I decided to stay. I have been staff on this server for over 3 years now and I was not going to give that up until I felt it was my last option. I like to keep an open mind about negative things so I wanted to see what working with affixes was like before I decided to resign with the others. I made this clear to everyone who resigned and at the time they seemed to respect my decision. My plan never was to stay to only get manager. Obviously that is what ended up happening but that was never a guarantee with me staying. When I was offered the position I felt that it was important that I take it. Leaving affixes to be the only manager would not have been good especially if he ended up staying long term which was what I thought was going to happen. Regardless he needed someone who had knowledge of the server and at the time I was the best person to fill that role from the current staff team.

Skill
You mention that you feel Lumboc and I lack the skill and knowledge required to be a manager. While that is a subjective opinion I would like to make a case for myself. While you are correct, for the past few months I have done less blacklist appeals than kvids and zacky. That does not mean that I have never done them. In fact there have been many times during my tenure when I was the primary person doing them. 3 years is a very long time and during those 3 years I have focused on many different aspects of staffing and helping the server as a whole. Zacky and Kvids had blacklist appeals covered at the time which led me to focus on other things such as managing the build team etc. One question I would like to ask is how does doing blacklist appeals make someone fit for manager? Managing is completely different from staffing. This applies not only to servers but to jobs as a whole. Managers manage the system and the team. My skills as a manager do not correlate to how well I can do a blacklist appeal. Obviously doing the grunt work is what earns you the position of manager but trying to make a case that I’ve never put my time into them is just false.

Strength 2s
First off Im not sure who told you we originally thought it was a duels glitch? That was probably something we discussed but we quickly realized that it was most likely someone with gmc access. Also you say we found out who did the dupe in your post? We have never officially found out who did it as there is no way to definitely prove who gave them out. That is why the case was not closed as we were investigating any and all leads we found to figure out who did it. Regarding the strength 2s being on the last map. I was unsure of how exactly the person got them and I did ask about it and it seemed like nobody knew nor had an interest in finding out. There were a lot more pressing things going on at the time so I ended up taking the strength 2s away from the person's inventory and keeping an eye out for anymore as that was all I really could do at the time. I also never used this as a way to accuse you of duping the strength twos. I only told you this information so you could have an explanation as to why we were investigating you. Obviously if your alt gets gmc around when a big dupe happens you're clearly going to be asked about it? Now if I would have used that information to base a conclusion and demote you then I would agree that would be wrong which is why that did not happen. After the talk you were free to continue staffing. Also you say that my focus was solely on figuring out who duped the strength twos. As if me investigating that halts me from making any progress on anything else. There is a lot in the works as of now and my time investigating the strength 2s has not put any of that on hold, nor if I would have stopped investigating would it have been announced or finished anytime sooner. Also with the blacklist, you frame it as if I solely was the one to do this. I actually didn't even give you the blacklist. During a call with the managers we all agreed it was best to remove you from the server until we had a chance to talk to you about the alt having creative. While it may not look the best it looks a whole lot better than having your rank publicly removed for everyone to see. Yes it caused confusion for staff who were unaware of the situation however, removing your rank would have caused a lot more confusion. The blacklist was never intended to stay, it was only a precaution that was needed to figure out what was going on. Also I am not sure why you are under the impression that lumboc had no idea what was going on. He was present in every discussion about this and everything else going on in terms of the future of the server. He is very much aware of everything so I’m not sure why you said that here.

My main question is what exactly have I done that you believe is unfair to you? Other than your first point which is a personal issue that I genuinely still don’t know exactly what your talking about. What steps did I take that you feel I should not have? Should I just have let you pass without a talk after giving an alt gmc? Other than the reason you gave me there genuinely is never a reason to just give your alt gmc and have that account have it for a month. If you had done that any other time I would not have gotten in a call to talk to you about it but I think you can understand that seeing as the alt got creative around when a dupe happened I had to talk to you about it. I understand you believe I have lied about seeing a strength 2 on the previous map. This part of the argument is null because me and you can go back and forth all day about what we feel happened and whether or not there were strength 2s last map but here is what is fact. Even if I did not see those strength 2’s your alt is one of the only very few accounts that had access to possibly dupe. Seeing as you were still on the staff team I am of course going to question you regarding a seemingly careless decision at the time to give your alt gmc. All I did was ask why the account had gmc? When you answered, that was is it. If me asking these simple questions is unfair to you then I’m confused to think what you think would be fair. If any other staff member would have done these things I would have asked them the questions I asked you. I'm genuinely trying to figure out what you think I did poorly. If I truly hated you and was out to get you then why would I have not demoted you for this? Mega probably would have demoted you for the first call I had with you about DI’s. And if not he definitely would have for this whole gmc on an alt thing. However, I am not mega. I wanted to try and find the solution rather than just lose you as a staff member.

I understand that constantly being asked questions about things that concern us is demotivating; however I would not be doing my job as manager if I did not question you about these things. I do actually agree with you that me and all of the present and past managers could do a better job at showing our appreciation for the staff. At the end of the day they are doing this for free and out of their own good will. I personally will make an effort to acknowledge the staff teams good work moving forward.
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Seeing as many of these points are made towards me I thought it would be a good idea to respond. I will not be going into kryptos first point because quite frankly I am unsure exactly of what he is talking about, and regardless it is a personal issue which is best resolved privately rather than publicly. He has never brought any of that to me before now so I wish that he would have discussed it with me and we could have came to an understanding on that point. However, I will respond to anything that I can.

Mass Resignation
This is a very lengthy topic so I'll try to be as brief as possible. During affixes time here, until I was promoted to manager, I had worked very little with him. All I knew was what I was told from Kvids and Zacky. The way it was painted seemed like a very hostile work environment and I agreed that if it came to the last wire I would resign with them. I always had that intention however, when everybody resigned I did not think it was the right time. I made it clear to those two specifically that I did not think all our options were expended. I thought that there was still a way to work everything out with affixes and have them both stay. They however disagreed which is fine. At the end of the day we should respect each other's opinions. Seeing as I did not think it was the right time to resign I decided to stay. I have been staff on this server for over 3 years now and I was not going to give that up until I felt it was my last option. I like to keep an open mind about negative things so I wanted to see what working with affixes was like before I decided to resign with the others. I made this clear to everyone who resigned and at the time they seemed to respect my decision. My plan never was to stay to only get manager. Obviously that is what ended up happening but that was never a guarantee with me staying. When I was offered the position I felt that it was important that I take it. Leaving affixes to be the only manager would not have been good especially if he ended up staying long term which was what I thought was going to happen. Regardless he needed someone who had knowledge of the server and at the time I was the best person to fill that role from the current staff team.

Skill
You mention that you feel Lumboc and I lack the skill and knowledge required to be a manager. While that is a subjective opinion I would like to make a case for myself. While you are correct, for the past few months I have done less blacklist appeals than kvids and zacky. That does not mean that I have never done them. In fact there have been many times during my tenure when I was the primary person doing them. 3 years is a very long time and during those 3 years I have focused on many different aspects of staffing and helping the server as a whole. Zacky and Kvids had blacklist appeals covered at the time which led me to focus on other things such as managing the build team etc. One question I would like to ask is how does doing blacklist appeals make someone fit for manager? Managing is completely different from staffing. This applies not only to servers but to jobs as a whole. Managers manage the system and the team. My skills as a manager do not correlate to how well I can do a blacklist appeal. Obviously doing the grunt work is what earns you the position of manager but trying to make a case that I’ve never put my time into them is just false.

Strength 2s
First off Im not sure who told you we originally thought it was a duels glitch? That was probably something we discussed but we quickly realized that it was most likely someone with gmc access. Also you say we found out who did the dupe in your post? We have never officially found out who did it as there is no way to definitely prove who gave them out. That is why the case was not closed as we were investigating any and all leads we found to figure out who did it. Regarding the strength 2s being on the last map. I was unsure of how exactly the person got them and I did ask about it and it seemed like nobody knew nor had an interest in finding out. There were a lot more pressing things going on at the time so I ended up taking the strength 2s away from the person's inventory and keeping an eye out for anymore as that was all I really could do at the time. I also never used this as a way to accuse you of duping the strength twos. I only told you this information so you could have an explanation as to why we were investigating you. Obviously if your alt gets gmc around when a big dupe happens you're clearly going to be asked about it? Now if I would have used that information to base a conclusion and demote you then I would agree that would be wrong which is why that did not happen. After the talk you were free to continue staffing. Also you say that my focus was solely on figuring out who duped the strength twos. As if me investigating that halts me from making any progress on anything else. There is a lot in the works as of now and my time investigating the strength 2s has not put any of that on hold, nor if I would have stopped investigating would it have been announced or finished anytime sooner. Also with the blacklist, you frame it as if I solely was the one to do this. I actually didn't even give you the blacklist. During a call with the managers we all agreed it was best to remove you from the server until we had a chance to talk to you about the alt having creative. While it may not look the best it looks a whole lot better than having your rank publicly removed for everyone to see. Yes it caused confusion for staff who were unaware of the situation however, removing your rank would have caused a lot more confusion. The blacklist was never intended to stay, it was only a precaution that was needed to figure out what was going on. Also I am not sure why you are under the impression that lumboc had no idea what was going on. He was present in every discussion about this and everything else going on in terms of the future of the server. He is very much aware of everything so I’m not sure why you said that here.

My main question is what exactly have I done that you believe is unfair to you? Other than your first point which is a personal issue that I genuinely still don’t know exactly what your talking about. What steps did I take that you feel I should not have? Should I just have let you pass without a talk after giving an alt gmc? Other than the reason you gave me there genuinely is never a reason to just give your alt gmc and have that account have it for a month. If you had done that any other time I would not have gotten in a call to talk to you about it but I think you can understand that seeing as the alt got creative around when a dupe happened I had to talk to you about it. I understand you believe I have lied about seeing a strength 2 on the previous map. This part of the argument is null because me and you can go back and forth all day about what we feel happened and whether or not there were strength 2s last map but here is what is fact. Even if I did not see those strength 2’s your alt is one of the only very few accounts that had access to possibly dupe. Seeing as you were still on the staff team I am of course going to question you regarding a seemingly careless decision at the time to give your alt gmc. All I did was ask why the account had gmc? When you answered, that was is it. If me asking these simple questions is unfair to you then I’m confused to think what you think would be fair. If any other staff member would have done these things I would have asked them the questions I asked you. I'm genuinely trying to figure out what you think I did poorly. If I truly hated you and was out to get you then why would I have not demoted you for this? Mega probably would have demoted you for the first call I had with you about DI’s. And if not he definitely would have for this whole gmc on an alt thing. However, I am not mega. I wanted to try and find the solution rather than just lose you as a staff member.

I understand that constantly being asked questions about things that concern us is demotivating; however I would not be doing my job as manager if I did not question you about these things. I do actually agree with you that me and all of the present and past managers could do a better job at showing our appreciation for the staff. At the end of the day they are doing this for free and out of their own good will. I personally will make an effort to acknowledge the staff teams good work moving forward.
bro you lied THAT CHAINKILLER had strength 2's last map, If you saw that, you would have reported it as a good staff, so if you DID see it, and didn't act upon, you don't deserve ur position right now, if you DIDNT see it (which you didnt) You shouldn't lie, also showing no one can trust you on this server. Idc about all ur edating situations, I think its cringe but it's whatever. ur skill is obviously not there, Just admit it, you luckily got manager, fair play. I just don't understand why you'd lie about seeing Chainkiller have strength 2's, why not report it etc? RIP! KRYPTO IS MYG PCE OUT A4L ALPHA 4 LIFE PCE PCE PCE
 
Introduction:

Hello everyone, this is Krypto and I have recently stepped down from my position as a senior moderator on the InvadedLands network. I will be discussing the reasons why I resigned and what problems there currently are. I will be explaining events in chronological order and elaborating on them. P.S I am not coming across as hostile in this thread, I am just saying how it is.

4th September 2021:

A girl within this community, who I was good friends with, had our friendship ruined by Luke. This friendship had nearly lasted a year, which shows what it meant to me. Mentioning her name is pointless- it adds nothing to the table. Essentially, this girl was also close friends with Luke and me at the time and me and this girl had a good friendship, there was nothing more to it. I had no intentions to e-date her or anyone in general as I dislike the concept as it’s quite strange and definitely not my thing. Anyways, I made it clear that I wasn’t e-dating her or going to e-date anyone. I was just close friends with this girl. We made our funny jokes together, however Luke decided to ask the girl why she was speaking to me and making jokes like that. Even though it was none of his business initially to get involved, as it was quite inappropriate of him in doing so, she said to Luke that we were joking around and not going to ‘e-date’. As this carried on Luke became more curious and suspicious for what reason? Luke constantly asked and prompted the girl to stop talking to me as she might end up ‘e-dating’ me. We were 15 and 16 year olds just joking around but he was very concerned that she was going to end up ‘e-dating’ me, even though we made it clear that it’s never going to happen. I was even more concerned as to why he kept getting worried even though we re-assured him that we weren’t going to ‘e-date’, not like it was his place to even get reassurance about our situation. Anyways, there was much going on behind the scenes of Luke and her speaking, of which I am convinced and certainly know she was manipulated to stop being friends with me and block me from all platforms. Overall, why does he have to involve himself in a situation where a 16 and 15 year old are joking around, even after we reassured him that it wasn’t going to led to anything. This truly reflects who Luke is as a person (manipulative), and I was quite shocked at the time that he did this. This also might be a shocker for everyone who is close friends with Luke too, I am sorry that you had to read this. I did not think that he would go as far as ruining a friendship like that. It was only now that I really had the courage to speak up about this, whilst trying my hardest to forget about it for some months now.
This screenshot provides relevance to the situation, as it happened at the time. You can see me at the time, I was quite emotionally hurt and heated when Luke got involved. However, it may seem weird as she deleted all her messages.

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September 8th 2021:

As you may know this is the date when affixes was stated as manager. The whole drama with him being a bad manager led to the staff team coming together and actually co-operating to remove him. This involved me working with Luke, which was quite hard considering what he did to me in the past. But I had to deal with it as I actually cared about Invaded so I worked with him to get rid of affixes. We called everyday pretty much and kind of became more like what staff are supposed to be. However, this didn’t last long as we hit a stage where everyone was convinced affixes was not going to get demoted. All the staff stuck with their original opinion of not wanting to work with affixes, as he’s a horrible person, therefore most of them resigned. I stayed but did not work with him nor communicate with him, during this time I was messaging Skeppy on telegram about affixes which ultimately lead to his demotion. However, Luke and Lumboc during this time decided to work with him and essentially be his pet to get the manager rank. As they knew once Zackyyy and Kvids resigned they used that as an opportunity to ‘capitalize’ and get a manager rank. This clearly was a back stab and one of my core values is loyalty, and I was very disappointed in them for this. They valued rank over friendship. After what affixes did to us and ‘their’ friends mentally, they decide to go and work for him.


October 4th 2021:

Luke and Lumboc were promoted to manager by affixes. I was truly disappointed at this stage onwards. Not only did they ‘snake’ me and our friends, but they are totally not fit for this role and how they treated me during their tenure was highly inappropriate. By my comment regarding they are not fit for the role, I mean they lack vast amounts of knowledge such as not knowing how to do unlinks, which are senior-moderator duties and I even recall Lumboc asking how to do unlink appeals not that long ago but now he is a manager?? This truly demonstrates their lack of knowledge and unworthiness in holding a managerial position. Their performance too during their previous ranks is highly questionable as they rarely did any blacklist appeals and Lumboc probably did around 30 max in his 2 years of being a senior mod. To put this into perspective, I got senior-mod in August 2021. I did around 300+ blacklist appeals, and yes I did know how to do unlinks! It was highly frustrating seeing this happen, and no I wasn’t jealous, I was just disappointed. It’s sad to see that two prodigies (Zackyyy and Kvids) with vast amounts of knowledge and actual capabilities as a manager go to waste and are being replaced by people who lacked dedication before and all of a sudden had motivation once they could capitalize a position as manager.


October 5th 2021:

This date is also known as the strength 2 outbreak. Someone with access to gamemode (not me) spawned many strength 2s in the map which caused a lot of questions between the managers. After a while, they established that it was someone who spawned them in because at the start they were completely oblivious and thought it was a duels glitch. But, once they found out who it was they blacklisted strength 2s. Case closed right? Well apparently not.

October 14 2021:

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Now you can see I was like if it is urgent I will attend. But later I realized they just wasted my time and a poor management decision by them led to this. So, they asked why my alt had game mode 1 month ago, which is understandable. I gave my explanation of testing purposes with Zackyyy etc. Then Luke brought up a story of him seeing ‘Chainkiller’ with strength 2 potions last map, before the outbreak of this strength 2s map. By saying this, he implied that the time he saw Chainkiller last map having strengths was at the same time I had game mode, which is complete nonsense. Meaning that I supposedly started all of this. If he really saw Chainkiller with strength 2 last map, which he didn’t because I would know, Luke would’ve ACTED at the time to report it and took the strength 2 away. But no he didn’t, this is because Chainkiller didn’t have any strength 2s last map, in fact no one had strength 2s last map and he was making up stories to tarnish my name. The fact I had to defend myself with a story made by Luke was absurd. I also find it bizarre how Luke was worried about a strength 2 leak for, which had already been resolved on a dead and broken map. Instead he could’ve done something way more productive such as listening to suggestions for reset etc or implement mini updates. Just another example of him making poor management decisions, let alone not knowing how to do his admin duties previously.

Luke had also blacklisted me during this time:
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This was the most vacuous way to go about this. I was honestly laughing at this point and couldn’t take them seriously, zero professionalism at all. Why would they blacklist me when there were way more smarter alternatives to go about this if they were scared about me leaking items. Him blacklisting me caused way more problems with trainees coming up to me and asking why I was blacklisted and it overall created confusion for no reason. Once again, another example of Luke’s vacuous decisions as a manager.

Lumboc during this period had no idea what was going on and was just being Luke’s ‘Yes Man’ and agreeing with everything that he was saying. This is self-explanatory for Lumboc of how he is not a good fit as a manager and played a part in all this, as he never took time to formulate his own opinions he just took Luke’s side.

The constant pattern of them only talking to me for something bad which they make up and I end up debunking was demotivating. I don’t want to constantly fight off two managers being fueled by lies. They never come to me for something positive, it’s always a negative talk which I cannot be asked to put up with anymore. For example, when I pin down blacklist appeals I never get any commended, nor do the other hard-working staff members who do their work. In fact, this is my big thanks to the community as most of you are the ones that actually motivate us, thanking us, telling us we are doing a good job, instead of the managers who should be.



Present
Given my explanation above, this is why I resigned. For people who are reading this, I have revealed the other sides of them that you might not have noticed. I do not want to be working under two people who mistreat me, constantly on my back and that are not competent for their role. I do not see the server going anywhere, given what I saw (which I won’t disclose in courtesy of the network) but yes they do not know how to function. You guys can also see that the server will not be progressing with them in power too. I also find it sad that Hayech has to work alongside them, because ultimately it is not his fault for the downfall of Invaded as he has to rely on two liabilities. I honestly didn't think I'd have to take this route in making this thread, but if they treated me like this, so be it.. Keeping them two as a manager was a big mistake, and they have now lost me.

Pce - BabyKrypto
Damn, another good staff member down. these bozos..
 
bro you lied THAT CHAINKILLER had strength 2's last map, If you saw that, you would have reported it as a good staff, so if you DID see it, and didn't act upon, you don't deserve ur position right now, if you DIDNT see it (which you didnt) You shouldn't lie, also showing no one can trust you on this server. Idc about all ur edating situations, I think its cringe but it's whatever. ur skill is obviously not there, Just admit it, you luckily got manager, fair play. I just don't understand why you'd lie about seeing Chainkiller have strength 2's, why not report it etc? RIP! KRYPTO IS MYG PCE OUT A4L ALPHA 4 LIFE PCE PCE PCE
Like I said in my post I did talk to people who were on the team previously. They didn't think much of it and thought it was a one off thing or that maybe there was some in game dupe. So I took action and took the strength 2s from the inventory and kept a watch for anymore. I explained all this in the post above so I`m not sure why you`re saying I did nothing?
 
Seeing as many of these points are made towards me I thought it would be a good idea to respond. I will not be going into kryptos first point because quite frankly I am unsure exactly of what he is talking about, and regardless it is a personal issue which is best resolved privately rather than publicly. He has never brought any of that to me before now so I wish that he would have discussed it with me and we could have came to an understanding on that point. However, I will respond to anything that I can.

Mass Resignation
This is a very lengthy topic so I'll try to be as brief as possible. During affixes time here, until I was promoted to manager, I had worked very little with him. All I knew was what I was told from Kvids and Zacky. The way it was painted seemed like a very hostile work environment and I agreed that if it came to the last wire I would resign with them. I always had that intention however, when everybody resigned I did not think it was the right time. I made it clear to those two specifically that I did not think all our options were expended. I thought that there was still a way to work everything out with affixes and have them both stay. They however disagreed which is fine. At the end of the day we should respect each other's opinions. Seeing as I did not think it was the right time to resign I decided to stay. I have been staff on this server for over 3 years now and I was not going to give that up until I felt it was my last option. I like to keep an open mind about negative things so I wanted to see what working with affixes was like before I decided to resign with the others. I made this clear to everyone who resigned and at the time they seemed to respect my decision. My plan never was to stay to only get manager. Obviously that is what ended up happening but that was never a guarantee with me staying. When I was offered the position I felt that it was important that I take it. Leaving affixes to be the only manager would not have been good especially if he ended up staying long term which was what I thought was going to happen. Regardless he needed someone who had knowledge of the server and at the time I was the best person to fill that role from the current staff team.

Skill
You mention that you feel Lumboc and I lack the skill and knowledge required to be a manager. While that is a subjective opinion I would like to make a case for myself. While you are correct, for the past few months I have done less blacklist appeals than kvids and zacky. That does not mean that I have never done them. In fact there have been many times during my tenure when I was the primary person doing them. 3 years is a very long time and during those 3 years I have focused on many different aspects of staffing and helping the server as a whole. Zacky and Kvids had blacklist appeals covered at the time which led me to focus on other things such as managing the build team etc. One question I would like to ask is how does doing blacklist appeals make someone fit for manager? Managing is completely different from staffing. This applies not only to servers but to jobs as a whole. Managers manage the system and the team. My skills as a manager do not correlate to how well I can do a blacklist appeal. Obviously doing the grunt work is what earns you the position of manager but trying to make a case that I’ve never put my time into them is just false.

Strength 2s
First off Im not sure who told you we originally thought it was a duels glitch? That was probably something we discussed but we quickly realized that it was most likely someone with gmc access. Also you say we found out who did the dupe in your post? We have never officially found out who did it as there is no way to definitely prove who gave them out. That is why the case was not closed as we were investigating any and all leads we found to figure out who did it. Regarding the strength 2s being on the last map. I was unsure of how exactly the person got them and I did ask about it and it seemed like nobody knew nor had an interest in finding out. There were a lot more pressing things going on at the time so I ended up taking the strength 2s away from the person's inventory and keeping an eye out for anymore as that was all I really could do at the time. I also never used this as a way to accuse you of duping the strength twos. I only told you this information so you could have an explanation as to why we were investigating you. Obviously if your alt gets gmc around when a big dupe happens you're clearly going to be asked about it? Now if I would have used that information to base a conclusion and demote you then I would agree that would be wrong which is why that did not happen. After the talk you were free to continue staffing. Also you say that my focus was solely on figuring out who duped the strength twos. As if me investigating that halts me from making any progress on anything else. There is a lot in the works as of now and my time investigating the strength 2s has not put any of that on hold, nor if I would have stopped investigating would it have been announced or finished anytime sooner. Also with the blacklist, you frame it as if I solely was the one to do this. I actually didn't even give you the blacklist. During a call with the managers we all agreed it was best to remove you from the server until we had a chance to talk to you about the alt having creative. While it may not look the best it looks a whole lot better than having your rank publicly removed for everyone to see. Yes it caused confusion for staff who were unaware of the situation however, removing your rank would have caused a lot more confusion. The blacklist was never intended to stay, it was only a precaution that was needed to figure out what was going on. Also I am not sure why you are under the impression that lumboc had no idea what was going on. He was present in every discussion about this and everything else going on in terms of the future of the server. He is very much aware of everything so I’m not sure why you said that here.

My main question is what exactly have I done that you believe is unfair to you? Other than your first point which is a personal issue that I genuinely still don’t know exactly what your talking about. What steps did I take that you feel I should not have? Should I just have let you pass without a talk after giving an alt gmc? Other than the reason you gave me there genuinely is never a reason to just give your alt gmc and have that account have it for a month. If you had done that any other time I would not have gotten in a call to talk to you about it but I think you can understand that seeing as the alt got creative around when a dupe happened I had to talk to you about it. I understand you believe I have lied about seeing a strength 2 on the previous map. This part of the argument is null because me and you can go back and forth all day about what we feel happened and whether or not there were strength 2s last map but here is what is fact. Even if I did not see those strength 2’s your alt is one of the only very few accounts that had access to possibly dupe. Seeing as you were still on the staff team I am of course going to question you regarding a seemingly careless decision at the time to give your alt gmc. All I did was ask why the account had gmc? When you answered, that was is it. If me asking these simple questions is unfair to you then I’m confused to think what you think would be fair. If any other staff member would have done these things I would have asked them the questions I asked you. I'm genuinely trying to figure out what you think I did poorly. If I truly hated you and was out to get you then why would I have not demoted you for this? Mega probably would have demoted you for the first call I had with you about DI’s. And if not he definitely would have for this whole gmc on an alt thing. However, I am not mega. I wanted to try and find the solution rather than just lose you as a staff member.

I understand that constantly being asked questions about things that concern us is demotivating; however I would not be doing my job as manager if I did not question you about these things. I do actually agree with you that me and all of the present and past managers could do a better job at showing our appreciation for the staff. At the end of the day they are doing this for free and out of their own good will. I personally will make an effort to acknowledge the staff teams good work moving forward.
You should also learn how to respond to people's concerns via discord since you keep dms open. As a Manager you should be transparent and actually interact with the community and help people in need since you hold such a high position. I had to message Lumboc to get the reason for my denial out of you and even that took like 3 days because of your unwillingness to reply. Did I really have to get a middle man into this situation to actually get a response from you?
This is personally something more immature than the things I've said and done 2 years ago which is what you denied me for. Stop holding grudges for that and give people who genuinely want to help another chance.
This is why the community thinks you're not fit for this role, you don't reply to anyone who has valid concerns unless they're your friend. A manager should be easy to contact, Mega had dms open and replied to people in need, you have DMs open but you don't reply to anybody. Could you tell us how much change are you gonna bring to this server? Because all we see from you is you AFK in-game, or unvanishing to play events while we scream at you in chat that there's cheaters around and that pcelmao is spamming the chat again and you're just casually playing your event.

I'm giving you this as feedback more than anything, because this is something I don't see right from someone who is the "face" of this server.

There's nothing to debate about my denial anymore, because I know that in your eyes I've killed my chances at ever trying to become staff here again after the affixes thread and every public post I made during this whole hiatus, but I believe it's better to get my voice out there than sit quietly and accepting everything. I was determined to help this place but there's no point anymore. I wish you luck saving this server from it's demise.
 
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You should also learn how to respond to people's concerns via discord since you keep dms open. As a Manager you should be transparent and actually interact with the community and help people in need since you hold such a high position. I had to message Lumboc to get the reason for my denial out of you and even that took like 3 days because of your unwillingness to reply. Did I really have to get a middle man into this situation to actually get a response from you? Also I don't wanna hear about the cliche bs of you being busy or whatever, when you had enough time to laugh in DMs when Emboxity posted these screenshots against @Rikhard_ so you finally had a proper reason to deny his staff application

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This is personally something more immature than the things I've said and done 2 years ago which is what you denied me for. Stop holding grudges for that and give people who genuinely want to help another chance.
This is why the community thinks you're not fit for this role, you don't reply to anyone who has valid concerns unless they're your friend. A manager should be easy to contact, Mega had dms open and replied to people in need, you have DMs open but you don't reply to anybody. Could you tell us how much change are you gonna bring to this server? Because all we see from you is you AFK in-game, or unvanishing to play events while we scream at you in chat that there's cheaters around and that pcelmao is spamming the chat again and you're just casually playing your event.

I'm giving you this as feedback more than anything, because this is something I don't see right from someone who is the "face" of this server.

There's nothing to debate about my denial anymore, because I know that in your eyes I've killed my chances at ever trying to become staff here again after the affixes thread and every public post I made during this whole hiatus, but I believe it's better to get my voice out there than sit quietly and accepting everything. I was determined to help this place but there's no point anymore. I wish you luck saving this server from it's demise.
why u keep dragging on your denial bro it aint that important
 
Oh god, here we go again:

and on god can ppl stop beefing about ur life problems bcs no one actually cares.


To be honest, I don't even know where to start. First mega, followed along with Zacky and Kvids, then affixes and now Hayech followed along with Luke and Lumboc, who is next? I refuse to comment on individuals in this reply because I honestly CBA with drama on a server that is mainstream and shouldn't be in need of desperate help but hey ho here we are again ripping into the absolute shittery the server has got itself in due to managements poor decision making and lack of understanding. There are definitely specifics that should be addressed which I will try to touch up in this thread in a nice-ish way without causing offense to people and if I do cause you offense the logout button is on the top right of the forums I honestly don't wanna hear it I just want to see the best for a community that I have dedicated 1 year of my life too just to get demoted for something which turned out to be true later, as well as seeing absolute units of staff members resign due to management.

Speaking from someone who staffed on the team for over a year and dedicated all my time towards making Invaded a better place I want to say that everything in this thread is in high hopes of a recovery as all I want to see is this community to be back on track with players enjoying themself. With that being said:

I am honestly getting so fed up with management issues on invaded because it is all we are seeing now. As some have even highlighted in this thread it is becoming a weekly/monthly thing where there is drama within the team. This whole shittery invaded is in has 1 simple solution, that is to have ONE GOOD MANAGER who will dedicate time to the community, respond to and help the community as well as caring about the community and taking account of their actions and treating everyone equally within the team. Additionally, they need to be taking into consideration bringing back old team members, as touched by Chain who has been in the community for years.
we need a new staff team, we need Zackyyy as a manager, or someone who is willing to listen what the community has to say and takes action on it.

Let me begin:

Problem 1: Managers
The management position is being thrown about like it's Trainee with a new person every week, this is the first mistake Invaded has, the management position should be a position fit for someone who knows the community inside out and can adjust the server to fit around the community as well as being transparent, open and understanding of all the community needs and suggestions which leads to maximized player satisfaction. The management position should be very rare to achieve and should take a very long time to get to. I shouldn't even need to explain why. As mentioned above we have gone through in total 7 managers within the past 2 months, just for a comparison when I was staffing there was not a change in management for almost 1 year. Before I get brainless quotes I am fully aware that the server was not in the state it is in now but you need to look deeper into it to understand why the server is in this shit state and how EASILY PREVENTABLE this all is. The fact I cannot even count the amount of staff that resigned/got demoted due to management is honestly beyond me and I cannot even find the right words to put here other than the fact it is absurd. I do not want to target certain managers in this section, but I must admit moving from admin to management positions that quickly is very rare which they have admitted themself and that is fair enough. And what I will say with pure chest is the current managers right now are not fit for the position, do not take that as an attack because honestly, it isn't. I am not saying that they will never be fit for the position but right now this moment they have lots to learn and have jumped through the ranks very quickly as a result of affixes' poor judgment and lack of understanding of the community. Additionally, they have been put in comparison with Zack and Kvids which makes their job harder as they will try to be performing better than them, which at this stage of Invaded is fairly hard to do. This part I am about to write about tallies up very closely with Problem 2: and this is the fact that as a manager you must need to be able to argue a point of perspectives, you cannot just say "yes" to everything or "no" to everything if you think of something highly you need to have the confidence and strength to argue and back what you are bringing forward to the table. If you do not do this absolutely nothing will change because right now the management team has all very different opinions on the future of Invaded and seem to be conflicting on everything that is being said. What I will touch upon are Zacky and Kvids. I know I mentioned that I would not be talking about individuals, but here I am. Zacky and Kvids were a PERFECT example of what the server needed, they listened, they were transparent and they were not snowflakes which meant they could argue their POVs with ease which therefore means they could bring good suggestions forward which then perhaps allowed them to capitalize off of them which overall meant they could bring YOUR idea to Invaded. Unfortunately, as we know they are no longer around which seems to be a pattern invaded is very good at reproducing. (Solid staff members leaving as a result of management) Speaking of patterns we are seeing on Invaded, this whole EDATING stuff has undoubtedly caused all the issues we have seen on Invaded and you would think that managers especially should be learning from previous mistakes rather than continuing secretly with their relationships as their main priority and invaded as their second. Just to make things factual, there has been plenty of ex-managers, or people that are more than capable of managing that has come forward and asked to help, they have all been told no or to reapply as a trainee. Speaking about management, the lack of understanding is still there as they all believe the staff team leave optionally as seen here:
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Of course, some have, but lots have not left optionally.

Problem 2: The staff team.
Just like any ordinary community, the heart of it is the staff team if the team does not perform well, or there is beef there will be huge knock-on effects. These are the good members leaving and reduced amount of workload performed by everyone, as let's be real working in a shit environment is not beneficial for anyone. Over the past year, I would say I have lost count on the number of solid team members that have left as a result of managers it is disturbing to see and unfair on the community. The main problem I believe with the staff team is solely based off of the fact that the players that know the community back to front and inside out have resigned or been demoted due to poor management. Naturally, they will have to accept new people onto the team and take bigger risks to maintain a certain amount of workload. The way Invaded is going now, especially under managers' decision is quantity > quality. Meaning they much rather hire loads more staff members than have a smaller hardworking team. How do I know this? Well, solid staff members can no longer return, and the ones that have offered to return have all been denied for immaturity. Crazy. Ever since my false demotion specifically, I have offered to return countless amounts of time as I have been watching invaded collapse over the past year as the remaining team is aware and upon asking I have been denied for immaturity every time despite all the ban appeals, player reports and arguing I had to do to get small stuff like the suggestions part of the forums added for server improvements. I will say it now and have always thought it. If they want Invaded to be back on track they need to take a plunge, speak to ex-staff members and bring the solid ones back as well as removing underperforming team members that have 0 clues about the community.
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Back when I staffed, the team was incredibly solid, there was very little beef until situations with Mega sprung up, but that situation aside the community was very smooth sailing, everything fell into place and there were few problems. Since the removal of mega and the unsettlement of management, everything has gone to shit and will continue to do so until the current managers act upon it. The most important thing for me in my books is a team that is not scared to argue their POVs. If you have a team where everyone just say "yes" or "no" nothing will happen, similar to managers. The reason the old team worked so well, hence why the community was smooth sailing is that no one was scared to speak out on their opinions of situations, this meant that shit got done when it needed to be done and if someone wasn't pulling their weight they'd know about it and soon correct it. If they didn't, goodbye ? . Unfortunately, especially now Krypto is gone I know a solid 2 staff members that would actually argue their POV. That is 2 staff members / 14. Those are not scared to argue to get something implemented into the server.

What I personally think would be the best bet for Invaded
Without any second thoughts, I <and I am sure lots others> could quite safely say Invaded is on ropes, no server deserves to have to go through all of this shit, with a new manager every other week and a lack of care given towards it. With that being said I think lots of the old team members, that know the community inside out should potentially be contacted as they all know how the staff team should be like. If invaded wants to continue for much longer this is definitely one of your safe bets in moving forward. By doing this the management should be able to calm down and prioritize shit that will actually help the server, staff team can bring solid suggestions forward, and then the managers can act upon it to make Invaded better, and hopefully put it back on track. Invaded is so far in the shit right now, if nothing happens soon there really will not be much point in even logging onto the forums anymore. Edating is so fucking cringe, on god I beg there is no more of this on the staff team because it is honestly ruining so much for the community. Have a meeting with the members and discuss something that will work well for both parties.

It really is not hard, it is embarrassing that It has needed to go through all of these managers and Invaded still is nowhere near on track of being back on path.

With everything being said: not exposing anyone none of that shit, I just want to see the best for everyone and the community because this is honestly crazy.

big^ krypto for posting this thread fucking legend bro
 
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tbh, to me, you're the one in the wrong. Csyre said many times that she wasn't hating on anyone in her thread and wasn't here to criticize Krypto or anyone. If you read it, you would see she's simply saying facts to give people another point of view because you shouldn't judge someone just like that without proofs and without others points of view because you may have been fooled. I'm not critizing you either, but just understand Csyre who tries to make people understand the situation isn't exactly like Krypto said in his thread.
shut up theyve done so many wrong things not just from this situation defending them arent gonna do anything lol
 
Like I said in my post I did talk to people who were on the team previously. They didn't think much of it and thought it was a one off thing or that maybe there was some in game dupe. So I took action and took the strength 2s from the inventory and kept a watch for anymore. I explained all this in the post above so I`m not sure why you`re saying I did nothing?
you didnt take the strengths from his inventory, because he DIDNT have them? last map? so surely you're just lying? you "took action" lol.. he didnt have them, you're just lying.
 
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