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The reason why there isn't a survival yet (and probably will never be)

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The reason why there isn't a survival yet (and probably will never be)

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Introduction

Hello! Yes, I know most of you want survival back (Including myself, yes I really love invadedland's survival), and you guys tried some stuff to bring it back.

Some examples can be seen here:

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(Application to become survival manager, ofc its bad)1660514111337.png
(Making a post about the long time the server is down and telling the admins to actually work on the server)sr2.png
(Collecting a list of plugins so admins won't have to work in it, not sure about the current situation of survival but pretty sure it won't help at all)

We can see one thing that these three post share: Failure on their objective.

The Reason
Most of us know that Survival won't come back (and I feel bad for those that don't know/want to understand) but here's the real question: Why isn't Survival back?

To answer this question, we need to first, investigate about the server's current state.

At the moment of making this post, there are 58 Players Online (55 in KitPvP, 2 in The Hub and 1 in Skyblock (You know something's wrong when the lobby is more entertaining than a entire gamemode))

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(also fun fact, day 2 of making this post and I now see 35 players online)

What can we view? Not only the fact that the server's almost dead comparing to 2 years ago, but the fact that the server's main attraction is KitPvP. Do the admins know about this situation? <- How can we answer this question?

If we check the latest updates on Invadedland's discord, we can then answer that question.

kitpvp reset.webp
invupdate2.webp
kitpvp update3.webp

Those are some of the updates that were done after the Skyblock Reset. What can we see?

  • They only update and reset KitPvP
  • KitPvP resets are less than every 6 months
  • They are looking for lots of staff
  • I also didn't put them here, but constantly there are bug fixes and network fixes, proof that they only care about bugs after these become public to the community
  • They are in need of money; Seasonal Crates, New methods to pay, Sales, etc.
Conclusion: They know that KitPvP is the only thing that keeps this server (kinda) alive. What they do to fix this problem? Nothing.

Also, I'm not sure, but I could say they are desperate for money and paying the servers to keep it running.

Basically, the reason why there isn't a update to Survival is because
the only few people that play this server actively won't feed
the server's desire for money for long enough, also they are only
playing KitPvP so the admins only think about that gamemode.

TL;DR
The staff don't really care about Survival and Skyblock, because their fanbase is only in KitPvP so they update it constantly. And I don't blame them tho, I would do the same in their situation.

There's only one way to fix this situation: More Players. How this will work? More players will mean more profits, more profits will mean more development, more development will mean more and active players, more and active players will make even MORE development, and this greater development will, eventually, bring survival back.

How do we achieve this? You guys remember Skeppy right? He was the reason WHY this server once was active and had lots of players. However, he stopped making videos about this server, people stopped joining and playing the server, less players that made the staff less active, less active staff made less updates/resets,and less updates made the server to be like it is right now. We need to bring Skeppy back to this server and make videos about it, which I hardly believe will ever happen.

Oh and please stop making posts about it.
Thanks for reading.
 

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I forgot to mention it, but it would be nice if you guys find any other reason and get me convinced about it, and maybe i would edit the post
 
I forgot to mention it, but it would be nice if you guys find any other reason and get me convinced about it, and maybe i would edit the post
because the devs are garbanzo beans and are too lazy to do plugins, cause tehneon left with them all
 
This is yet another speculative post coming from a slightly remixed angle to appear learned and interesting. It's nothing new and it's hardly accurate.

The staff don't really care about Survival and Skyblock
Not true.

More players will mean more profits
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Oh and please stop making posts about it.
Says the person creating yet another entirely pointless post about it, despite the fact you know very little except what has been written on the forum by all of the other people that also, in addition, know very little.

Most of us know that Survival won't come back
Not true. If it were, the forums/gamemode/store categories/Discord channels/etc would have been removed.

the server's main attraction is KitPvP
This has literally always been the case

Do the admins know about this situation?
are you kidding me

Failure on their objective
Don't get me wrong, I also think it's unacceptable how long this has taken, but it is hardly failure on an objective. In order for that to be true, an objective would have to have been set. It wasn't, there was no objective. Making posts like this helps nobody, spreads misinformation and wastes server storage. With respect, it's clear that you don't know what you're talking about and you should not make posts that make it appear as though you do.

You have made vague guesses and combined them with flawed logic to come to various conclusions, one of them being "the server needs to make money" — InvadedLands is a business, in order for it to function it needs to bring in revenue. KitPVP is and has always been the server's most popular game mode and so it makes sense that after a comprehensive recode, this is what they decided to initially focus on.

That's literally all there is to it bossman. In terms of what's next for Survival, the situation remains the same as it was before this post was made, we'll have to wait and see.
 
Not true. If it were, the forums/gamemode/store categories/Discord channels/etc would have been removed.
don't get me wrong I agree with everything else you're saying but I've heard from other staff members that survival just won't be coming back. can like a manager confirm that it will/won't?
 
don't get me wrong I agree with everything else you're saying but I've heard from other staff members that survival just won't be coming back. can like a manager confirm that it will/won't?
I can strongly vouch that what vunsh said is true.
 
I can strongly vouch that what vunsh said is true.
i didn't say anything to vunsh, i asked for a manager, i'm not sure i trust you enough from how toxic you were to me as a player to trust you, sorry
 
Introduction

Hello! Yes, I know most of you want survival back (Including myself, yes I really love invadedland's survival), and you guys tried some stuff to bring it back.

Some examples can be seen here:

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(Application to become survival manager, ofc its bad)View attachment 27109
(Making a post about the long time the server is down and telling the admins to actually work on the server)View attachment 27110
(Collecting a list of plugins so admins won't have to work in it, not sure about the current situation of survival but pretty sure it won't help at all)

We can see one thing that these three post share: Failure on their objective.

The Reason
Most of us know that Survival won't come back (and I feel bad for those that don't know/want to understand) but here's the real question: Why isn't Survival back?

To answer this question, we need to first, investigate about the server's current state.

At the moment of making this post, there are 58 Players Online (55 in KitPvP, 2 in The Hub and 1 in Skyblock (You know something's wrong when the lobby is more entertaining than a entire gamemode))

View attachment 27111
(also fun fact, day 2 of making this post and I now see 35 players online)

What can we view? Not only the fact that the server's almost dead comparing to 2 years ago, but the fact that the server's main attraction is KitPvP. Do the admins know about this situation? <- How can we answer this question?

If we check the latest updates on Invadedland's discord, we can then answer that question.

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Those are some of the updates that were done after the Skyblock Reset. What can we see?

  • They only update and reset KitPvP
  • KitPvP resets are less than every 6 months
  • They are looking for lots of staff
  • I also didn't put them here, but constantly there are bug fixes and network fixes, proof that they only care about bugs after these become public to the community
  • They are in need of money; Seasonal Crates, New methods to pay, Sales, etc.
Conclusion: They know that KitPvP is the only thing that keeps this server (kinda) alive. What they do to fix this problem? Nothing.

Also, I'm not sure, but I could say they are desperate for money and paying the servers to keep it running.

Basically, the reason why there isn't a update to Survival is because
the only few people that play this server actively won't feed
the server's desire for money for long enough, also they are only
playing KitPvP so the admins only think about that gamemode.

TL;DR
The staff don't really care about Survival and Skyblock, because their fanbase is only in KitPvP so they update it constantly. And I don't blame them tho, I would do the same in their situation.

There's only one way to fix this situation: More Players. How this will work? More players will mean more profits, more profits will mean more development, more development will mean more and active players, more and active players will make even MORE development, and this greater development will, eventually, bring survival back.

How do we achieve this? You guys remember Skeppy right? He was the reason WHY this server once was active and had lots of players. However, he stopped making videos about this server, people stopped joining and playing the server, less players that made the staff less active, less active staff made less updates/resets,and less updates made the server to be like it is right now. We need to bring Skeppy back to this server and make videos about it, which I hardly believe will ever happen.

Oh and please stop making posts about it.
Thanks for reading.
very sad
 
Not true.
Alr, if it wasn't, can I get the latest updates on Skyblock/Survival? Have you guys atleast fixed any bug, added anything new, or modificated anything on it since the latest Skyblock reset, which was almost 6 months ago? When was the last time you guys joined Skyblock or Survival (if it's whitelisted for staff).
Says the person creating yet another entirely pointless post about it, despite the fact you know very little except what has been written on the forum by all of the other people that also, in addition, know very little.
I forgot to mention in the introduction that I'm making this post because of these people to actually shut up and tell them why these posts aren't helping at all, that's why the "Oh, and stop making posts about it" (Yes, pretty ironic)

Also, why can't you tell us on what are we wrong? How do we "know very little"? I understand that I and other people might be wrong on some stuff, but if so, on what stuff?
Not true. If it were, the forums/gamemode/store categories/Discord channels/etc would have been removed.
Alright, if it's coming back, then I would like to know the work that hasn't been shared or released publicly, or you guys are planning to start soon?
Don't get me wrong, I also think it's unacceptable how long this has taken, but it is hardly failure on an objective. In order for that to be true, an objective would have to have been set. It wasn't, there was no objective. Making posts like this helps nobody, spreads misinformation and wastes server storage. With respect, it's clear that you don't know what you're talking about and you should not make posts that make it appear as though you do.
First, I'm saying that they have failed their objective of helping the staff on releasing survival, which you also agree when you said "Making posts like this helps nobody".

Second, I would like to know how this post wastes server storage. If the server storage is suddenly so important that a little use of it like making a post like this does affect the server, why not to do anything about it? (Telling the users to not do useless posts, deleting the posts that have contributed nothing to the entire network (like this one) and it's been months ago since the last reply in them, etc.)

Third, does any member actually know what they are talking about when making any suggestion? or making any post about the server's current state?
You have made vague guesses and combined them with flawed logic to come to various conclusions, one of them being "the server needs to make money" — InvadedLands is a business, in order for it to function it needs to bring in revenue. KitPVP is and has always been the server's most popular game mode and so it makes sense that after a comprehensive recode, this is what they decided to initially focus on.
If my post is 100% wrong, and my conclusion also has nothing to do with the actual reason, then what is it? I'm pretty sure you must have pretty much knowledge of the server at this point, after all you have a mod rank.
That's literally all there is to it bossman. In terms of what's next for Survival, the situation remains the same as it was before this post was made, we'll have to wait and see.
This post wasn't really made for the staff to read tbh, but i'm really happy one decided to actually read it and correct me into the stuff i'm wrong. I have nothing else to say except for "thank you"
 
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This post wasn't really made for the admins to read tbh, but i'm really happy one decided to actually read it and correct me into the stuff i'm wrong. I have nothing else to say except for "thank you"
He is a mod not a admin, and has no knowledge on when the gamemode will come back, as said by other staff members.
 
Cuz kitpvp more profitable and more ppl play it. Also probaly requires less resources than survival. #GG #Spawnstuck #VillagerSimulator #L
 
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