The Current Situation v2
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Zauns isn’t exactly the brightest bulb in the box
In my opinion, as long as it doesn’t effect the community or the productivity of working on the server, (mega) then it shouldn’t be us or anyones business to discuss
just this thread alone shows how disappointing the server is right now. This team seriously needs to get a grip. “oh but the team is trying hard oh but they’re just busy oh we had a shit manager (**** affixes ?)oh this opinion that opinion” what other server, take a minute and think and tell me, where have you ever seen drama like this between a STAFF. team and players. Where was edating and friendships a core argument between staff and players. Please tell me. There clearly is an issue that just refuses to be resolved here. I cba to type for long because this honestly is disappointing to type about, but get a grip. fix the server and the team. and carry on.
Please say more
I would've normally said no, but honestly I think probably yeah
I Understand you're POV,
However Lukes been edating like atleast 15 eGirls since hes staff and his staffrole on this server does give him somewhat of a ''reputation'' which makes it easier for him to get these egirls
I Don't personally know Lumboc so i'm not speaking on his case.
Its also pretty known that most (not all) people who do actually eDate are usually pretty anti-social individuals irl, which means they're usually quite weird whether you agree or not.
Funny how none of the staffmembers reply to this post, not @Yuki 's post or my post....Introduction:
Hello everyone, this is Krypto and I have recently stepped down from my position as a senior moderator on the InvadedLands network. I will be discussing the reasons why I resigned and what problems there currently are. I will be explaining events in chronological order and elaborating on them. P.S I am not coming across as hostile in this thread, I am just saying how it is.
4th September 2021:
A girl within this community, who I was good friends with, had our friendship ruined by Luke. This friendship had nearly lasted a year, which shows what it meant to me. Mentioning her name is pointless- it adds nothing to the table. Essentially, this girl was also close friends with Luke and me at the time and me and this girl had a good friendship, there was nothing more to it. I had no intentions to e-date her or anyone in general as I dislike the concept as it’s quite strange and definitely not my thing. Anyways, I made it clear that I wasn’t e-dating her or going to e-date anyone. I was just close friends with this girl. We made our funny jokes together, however Luke decided to ask the girl why she was speaking to me and making jokes like that. Even though it was none of his business initially to get involved, as it was quite inappropriate of him in doing so, she said to Luke that we were joking around and not going to ‘e-date’. As this carried on Luke became more curious and suspicious for what reason? Luke constantly asked and prompted the girl to stop talking to me as she might end up ‘e-dating’ me. We were 15 and 16 year olds just joking around but he was very concerned that she was going to end up ‘e-dating’ me, even though we made it clear that it’s never going to happen. I was even more concerned as to why he kept getting worried even though we re-assured him that we weren’t going to ‘e-date’, not like it was his place to even get reassurance about our situation. Anyways, there was much going on behind the scenes of Luke and her speaking, of which I am convinced and certainly know she was manipulated to stop being friends with me and block me from all platforms. Overall, why does he have to involve himself in a situation where a 16 and 15 year old are joking around, even after we reassured him that it wasn’t going to led to anything. This truly reflects who Luke is as a person (manipulative), and I was quite shocked at the time that he did this. This also might be a shocker for everyone who is close friends with Luke too, I am sorry that you had to read this. I did not think that he would go as far as ruining a friendship like that. It was only now that I really had the courage to speak up about this, whilst trying my hardest to forget about it for some months now.
This screenshot provides relevance to the situation, as it happened at the time. You can see me at the time, I was quite emotionally hurt and heated when Luke got involved. However, it may seem weird as she deleted all her messages.
September 8th 2021:
As you may know this is the date when affixes was stated as manager. The whole drama with him being a bad manager led to the staff team coming together and actually co-operating to remove him. This involved me working with Luke, which was quite hard considering what he did to me in the past. But I had to deal with it as I actually cared about Invaded so I worked with him to get rid of affixes. We called everyday pretty much and kind of became more like what staff are supposed to be. However, this didn’t last long as we hit a stage where everyone was convinced affixes was not going to get demoted. All the staff stuck with their original opinion of not wanting to work with affixes, as he’s a horrible person, therefore most of them resigned. I stayed but did not work with him nor communicate with him, during this time I was messaging Skeppy on telegram about affixes which ultimately lead to his demotion. However, Luke and Lumboc during this time decided to work with him and essentially be his pet to get the manager rank. As they knew once Zackyyy and Kvids resigned they used that as an opportunity to ‘capitalize’ and get a manager rank. This clearly was a back stab and one of my core values is loyalty, and I was very disappointed in them for this. They valued rank over friendship. After what affixes did to us and ‘their’ friends mentally, they decide to go and work for him.
October 4th 2021:
Luke and Lumboc were promoted to manager by affixes. I was truly disappointed at this stage onwards. Not only did they ‘snake’ me and our friends, but they are totally not fit for this role and how they treated me during their tenure was highly inappropriate. By my comment regarding they are not fit for the role, I mean they lack vast amounts of knowledge such as not knowing how to do unlinks, which are senior-moderator duties and I even recall Lumboc asking how to do unlink appeals not that long ago but now he is a manager?? This truly demonstrates their lack of knowledge and unworthiness in holding a managerial position. Their performance too during their previous ranks is highly questionable as they rarely did any blacklist appeals and Lumboc probably did around 30 max in his 2 years of being a senior mod. To put this into perspective, I got senior-mod in August 2021. I did around 300+ blacklist appeals, and yes I did know how to do unlinks! It was highly frustrating seeing this happen, and no I wasn’t jealous, I was just disappointed. It’s sad to see that two prodigies (Zackyyy and Kvids) with vast amounts of knowledge and actual capabilities as a manager go to waste and are being replaced by people who lacked dedication before and all of a sudden had motivation once they could capitalize a position as manager.
October 5th 2021:
This date is also known as the strength 2 outbreak. Someone with access to gamemode (not me) spawned many strength 2s in the map which caused a lot of questions between the managers. After a while, they established that it was someone who spawned them in because at the start they were completely oblivious and thought it was a duels glitch. But, once they found out who it was they blacklisted strength 2s. Case closed right? Well apparently not.
October 14 2021:
Now you can see I was like if it is urgent I will attend. But later I realized they just wasted my time and a poor management decision by them led to this. So, they asked why my alt had game mode 1 month ago, which is understandable. I gave my explanation of testing purposes with Zackyyy etc. Then Luke brought up a story of him seeing ‘Chainkiller’ with strength 2 potions last map, before the outbreak of this strength 2s map. By saying this, he implied that the time he saw Chainkiller last map having strengths was at the same time I had game mode, which is complete nonsense. Meaning that I supposedly started all of this. If he really saw Chainkiller with strength 2 last map, which he didn’t because I would know, Luke would’ve ACTED at the time to report it and took the strength 2 away. But no he didn’t, this is because Chainkiller didn’t have any strength 2s last map, in fact no one had strength 2s last map and he was making up stories to tarnish my name. The fact I had to defend myself with a story made by Luke was absurd. I also find it bizarre how Luke was worried about a strength 2 leak for, which had already been resolved on a dead and broken map. Instead he could’ve done something way more productive such as listening to suggestions for reset etc or implement mini updates. Just another example of him making poor management decisions, let alone not knowing how to do his admin duties previously.
Luke had also blacklisted me during this time:
This was the most vacuous way to go about this. I was honestly laughing at this point and couldn’t take them seriously, zero professionalism at all. Why would they blacklist me when there were way more smarter alternatives to go about this if they were scared about me leaking items. Him blacklisting me caused way more problems with trainees coming up to me and asking why I was blacklisted and it overall created confusion for no reason. Once again, another example of Luke’s vacuous decisions as a manager.
Lumboc during this period had no idea what was going on and was just being Luke’s ‘Yes Man’ and agreeing with everything that he was saying. This is self-explanatory for Lumboc of how he is not a good fit as a manager and played a part in all this, as he never took time to formulate his own opinions he just took Luke’s side.
The constant pattern of them only talking to me for something bad which they make up and I end up debunking was demotivating. I don’t want to constantly fight off two managers being fueled by lies. They never come to me for something positive, it’s always a negative talk which I cannot be asked to put up with anymore. For example, when I pin down blacklist appeals I never get any commended, nor do the other hard-working staff members who do their work. In fact, this is my big thanks to the community as most of you are the ones that actually motivate us, thanking us, telling us we are doing a good job, instead of the managers who should be.
Present
Given my explanation above, this is why I resigned. For people who are reading this, I have revealed the other sides of them that you might not have noticed. I do not want to be working under two people who mistreat me, constantly on my back and that are not competent for their role. I do not see the server going anywhere, given what I saw (which I won’t disclose in courtesy of the network) but yes they do not know how to function. You guys can also see that the server will not be progressing with them in power too. I also find it sad that Hayech has to work alongside them, because ultimately it is not his fault for the downfall of Invaded as he has to rely on two liabilities. I honestly didn't think I'd have to take this route in making this thread, but if they treated me like this, so be it.. Keeping them two as a manager was a big mistake, and they have now lost me.
Pce - BabyKrypto
Someone in the Managers team know we can let him quitt and replace him just what happend by Afffiixxxx......
you just singlehandedly offended like 60% of the world's population and probably 96% of Invaded's population
This was resolved in DMs and I pretty much debunked everything he said and clearly you didn't read my last response on this thread.
I do respect you that you stayed in that regard, as you still cared about Invaded. But, the fact you didn't tell any of us you were staying for this reason to work with him and see what he is like, was quite literally a stab in the back. You made this transition of wanting to work with him in a day, I don't know how you could make such a decision in a day and not even communicating it to us.
Don't act stupid, you knew that affixes was by himself because none of the staff members wanted to work with him, you took advantage of this. You knew that if you started to work with him you could get the manager rank, which is something you desired so much in my explanation below. I could've easily stayed and worked with affixes to get admin, but no I am not going to go against what I said previously over a rank. Also, why would you want to work with him when we literally planned to message skeppy about him to get him removed, was you that eager to get manager?
From my perspective, and during the time, Kev agreed that you did not know how to do unlink appeals either way. You wouldn't follow the actual protocol of seeing whether the account was shared/if they were different people/ if they changed their IP to evade. This is senior-moderator duties, yet you fail to know how to do them. Zacky and Kvids actually knew how to crack down on evaders, even I did. You did not interact with any of the suggestions either, you were pretty much dormant before you got manager. I totally agree with you managing the build team though, as that's something you can actually be commended for and are actually good at. You made leap from an inactive admin who barely did much to managing the network, this doesn't sit right with me or anyone.
Doing blacklist appeals and actually knowing how to do them is an expectation of senior moderators and admins. The fact that you couldn't handle them appropriately worries me. If you are not able to do basic duties what makes you capable of being a manager? And yes if you really want me to spill the beans whilst you were admin all you did was COMPLAIN. For example, you was like 'how comes zack and kev have more perms than me and we are both the same rank'. There is a difference, they actually worked HARD for it unlike you and they are capable of holding those certain powers. You are just salty because clearly you don't realize that hard work actually gets you somewhere, you don't get promoted from doing nothing. Another example is that whilst you were admin you always were concerned why 'Chainkiller' was unblacklisted. I'm bringing this up because it shows that you were not productive at all and all you cared about were certain grudges, we even explained to you that we were all set on letting him come back but you still have a weird obsession over him. Let the grudges go man and move on. This suggests that you only cared about the rank since the beginning and you went as far as not even congratulating them for their promotions to manager. Clearly you value a rank too much, even when you didn't put in the work to deserve it. The most you did was Luke says and streamed, and this is me being brutally honest. In what world do you think you capable of holding the management position, you barely put any effort and when you were manager you did not do anything at all. In fact the only thing that was communicated to us by you was 'what should the color code of the Halloween key be'. Why on earth do you care about releasing a key so much when you could be listening to the community, racking up suggestions for the new reset. If you actually had some knowledge you would know that no one is going to buy that key on this map as it is dry, ruined and inflated with duped items. Not to mention most of the purchases will be from people who card anyways, did you not think of that. This all just reinforces my point of your unworthiness to hold this position, the community know this too. I however will commend you for managing the build team, and as I said before I think we can all agree that is something more tailored towards you capabilities.
When you were initially investigating you did bring up that it was a potential duels glitch from no debuff, which is stupid because you don't get strength 2 from nodebuff duels.
You're hallucinating man, no one had strength 2s last map. This was a story you made to try and link it to the date where my alt had GMC, which makes it look like I started it. I was fine with you asking why my alt had gmc but the fact you linked it with a story is disappointing and you were trying to tarnish my reputation and potentially another player's reputation too. You didn't take the strength 2s away because they weren't there in the first place, if you really saw them you should've followed it up. I personally would know who would have strength 2s based off my skills and connections and I can assure you that no one had strength 2s last map. So the fact that you made up this story was highly inappropriate and not professional at all. You know I would let you ask me questions on the appropriate basis, just like you did yesterday as you asked about the sharp 5s, I was compliant. But you crossed the line when you made up a story and using that as the grounds to investigate, I'm not having it. Even if you were not sure about it, when it's clearly obvious that didn't happen, you should've never brought it up.
Yes you wouldn't have demoted me because it was based off a story and if you did you would know that it would cause way more backlash. Yes, you did let me to staff freely afterwards, but why the hell would I want to work for you anymore if you are constantly on my back and made up a lie to tarnish my reputation.
Ok if it wasn't just you, this was a poor decision either way because it could've been better communicated to me and others.
Lumboc did not bring anything to the table during that call, and no I am not trying to hate on him but he simply didn't add anything in that call. Also the fact he said it was 'serious' was a misuse of words because I had to cancel certain plans to attend this 'serious' talk.
I pretty much summed this all up in my previous points. But, you are not a good fit for manager, everyone can agree on this, given my previous explanation(s). You went to a level of making a story to tarnish my reputation and another player's reputation too. I know you couldn't have just let my alt run around with game mode, which I think it's fair, but once again the story you made up was the problem and I don't think you quite acknowledge this yet. Luke you are failing to take responsibility for any of your actions, and I have proved this in the thread. Now that the community can see this, it will put a bad light on you now. From what you want to and should do from now onwards is self-explanatory. The community are not having it, nor am I. As a manager, you need community support and now you lack this because of what you have done.
I feel like I'm repeating myself here, but I totally understand that you are able to ask why my alt had GMC. Which I would be more than happy to answer why, but the story you made up was where the problem started. You are making yourself look like a fool now, especially now that everyone knows you made up the worst ever story ? Like come on man...
Ok but the thing is I would've spoken to mega before hand with handling the DI's. Which I did with the previous managers, therefore I was granted permission to handle them. Therefore, you under no circumstances were able to demote for this, especially after my given explanation.
I rate the enthusiasm but it has gotten too far now and you simply just can't move forward from this. As I said before, you have been proven to not be worthy of this role so please do everyone a favor and step down. I don't see how you can work now since the whole community is against you, and no they are not out there because they hate you, they have read both sides and came to a conclusion.
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I don't think you should even bother replying and arguing at this point. It is clear who is in the wrong here and it is personally best for you to acknowledge what you have done is wrong and leave/step down.
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LETS GO.
Call an ambulance a murder just fucking happened jesus CHRIST
AMEN
I wasn't talking about the edating part, I was talking about the "pretty anti-social individuals irl, which means they're usually quite weird" part, because "pretty anti-social individuals irl" is the description of introverts, and introverts are about 60% of the population
Well said.
I leave for two months and I come back to a drama infested environment, what a cluster**** this server has turned into. First off it's dazzling how someone thought it was a fabulous idea to promote them both to manager without any sort of training, preparation or even better skill. This whole situation is embarrassing not only on managements end, to new players alike that come on the forums and see this absolute landmind of a disaster. I expected to come back overwhelmed by how much invadedlands has improved constantly learning from their mistakes gradually building up lost time from the last disaster we faced before my eventual departure from the server as a whole, but of course invaded being the oblivious place it is has to dig themselves into a larger hole then you are already in, it's honestly baffling.
Your own staff members can't trust you with the rank you have been given, why should we? Why should we invest tens if not hundred of hours on the server if there's literally no passion surrounding the server anymore? Can anyone in management actually comment on this and say with great confidence they actually want this server to succeed without saying it under your teeth, because from the sterling lineup of updates we have been receiving and from the behind the scenes drama I can see it's going swimmingly! May as well bring in bunnycraft at this rate, at least he has a better understanding of the community.
Just wanted to pop this in here because I just couldn't not reply to this regardless of what I said in my leaving thread.
Also much respect to you krypto
Your own staff members can't trust you with the rank you have been given, why should we? Why should we invest tens if not hundred of hours on the server if there's literally no passion surrounding the server anymore? Can anyone in management actually comment on this and say with great confidence they actually want this server to succeed without saying it under your teeth, because from the sterling lineup of updates we have been receiving and from the behind the scenes drama I can see it's going swimmingly! May as well bring in bunnycraft at this rate, at least he has a better understanding of the community.
Just wanted to pop this in here because I just couldn't not reply to this regardless of what I said in my leaving thread.
Also much respect to you krypto
i’ve held back from commenting on these posts but i’m just gonna say a couple of things -
i love invaded. I hate to see it in this state. This server has done so so much for me for so long, and i’m really thankful for that.
To come check up on it and see it in this frenzy every week, it’s really frustrating. I want invaded to succeed, i’m sure a lot of us do.
But what you have to realize is demanding two managers to step down isn’t gonna solve the problem, really what good will that do? Skeppy hires two more affixes to take their place? I’m glad these flaws are being talked about, but it’s seriously unrealistic to ask the two managers who, yes have their flaws ( like everyone do ), to leave.
I totally agree, something has to change. But this community can’t take another situation like this, it would be beyond repair at that point.
i love invaded. I hate to see it in this state. This server has done so so much for me for so long, and i’m really thankful for that.
To come check up on it and see it in this frenzy every week, it’s really frustrating. I want invaded to succeed, i’m sure a lot of us do.
But what you have to realize is demanding two managers to step down isn’t gonna solve the problem, really what good will that do? Skeppy hires two more affixes to take their place? I’m glad these flaws are being talked about, but it’s seriously unrealistic to ask the two managers who, yes have their flaws ( like everyone do ), to leave.
I totally agree, something has to change. But this community can’t take another situation like this, it would be beyond repair at that point.
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