Dear build team.

[vQuil]

Do you really just learn nothing from player complaints about mountains, caves and closed spaces? Because this map is filled with them, even next to the spawn drop down. If you try making the argument "oh theres lots of open space for clan fights to happen" thats just not how it works, clans dont just organize themselves to go to a selected part of the map and pvp there, the fights take place all over the map as players constantly bow boosting around trying to escape, which eventually leads to either being bow spammed in a mountain or getting 6v1d inside of a cave.
(Mountains and fence trees that lower FPS the second you get close to there, spawn is basically surrounded in mountains, etc.)
The map looks great visually, cool halloween theme, but for the purpose of KitPVP and how its played in invadedlands, its full of what players complained previous seasons

 

[Vault]

Earlier I forgot my airpods at home when I went to school, it was pretty upsetting and I kinda figured I wouldn't have music while I was at school. So I'm driving to school (the drivers here are so shitty) I go to my first class as usual and then in my 2nd class, I found my airpods in my backpack!

 

[dirosa]

Earlier I forgot my airpods at home when I went to school, it was pretty upsetting and I kinda figured I wouldn't have music while I was at school. So I'm driving to school (the drivers here are so shitty) I go to my first class as usual and then in my 2nd class, I found my airpods in my backpack!

wait gg

 

[ElieAxelrad]

Earlier I forgot my airpods at home when I went to school, it was pretty upsetting and I kinda figured I wouldn't have music while I was at school. So I'm driving to school (the drivers here are so shitty) I go to my first class as usual and then in my 2nd class, I found my airpods in my backpack!

pog

 

[Monkefy]

Do you really just learn nothing from player complaints about mountains, caves and closed spaces? Because this map is filled with them, even next to the spawn drop down. If you try making the argument "oh theres lots of open space for clan fights to happen" thats just not how it works, clans dont just organize themselves to go to a selected part of the map and pvp there, the fights take place all over the map as players constantly bow boosting around trying to escape, which eventually leads to either being bow spammed in a mountain or getting 6v1d inside of a cave.
(Mountains and fence trees that lower FPS the second you get close to there, spawn is basically surrounded in mountains, etc.)
The map looks great visually, cool halloween theme, but for the purpose of KitPVP and how its played in invadedlands, its full of what players complained previous seasons

 

[SirPoppyThFatCat]

Unfortunately it sounds more of a build management decision and the builders should not be blamed at all as they're only following instructions and working a lot on maps

tsk tsk tsk lukelovescandy, you should know better

 

[Doodles4]

Unfortunately it sounds more of a build management decision and the builders should not be blamed at all as they're only following instructions and working a lot on maps

^^^
This is most likely the case
On most build teams important decisions like that are normally decided by whoever is a managing the builders
though builders generally get alot of creative liberty normally, for things like that it’s not for us to decide

builders just have a job to do, and they don’t really have much control over what management decides is best, besides just the average suggestions like changing the specific block palette for something, ect (not sure if that’s how it works here but thats from personal experience from the servers I’ve built for)
the overall job is to just please whoever we’re working for :^)

 

[Clouttight]

on kiz

 

[Voltage]

Thank you vault for not talking about invaded and moving on with life just like csyre did

I said knock knock let the devil in

 

[vQuil]

Thank you vault for not talking about invaded and moving on with life just like csyre did

GO CRAZY

 

[7finals]

Earlier I forgot my airpods at home when I went to school, it was pretty upsetting and I kinda figured I wouldn't have music while I was at school. So I'm driving to school (the drivers here are so shitty) I go to my first class as usual and then in my 2nd class, I found my airpods in my backpack!

GG WE ONLY WINNING OUT HERE

 

[earthteam]

Do you really just learn nothing from player complaints about mountains, caves and closed spaces? Because this map is filled with them, even next to the spawn drop down. If you try making the argument "oh theres lots of open space for clan fights to happen" thats just not how it works, clans dont just organize themselves to go to a selected part of the map and pvp there, the fights take place all over the map as players constantly bow boosting around trying to escape, which eventually leads to either being bow spammed in a mountain or getting 6v1d inside of a cave.
(Mountains and fence trees that lower FPS the second you get close to there, spawn is basically surrounded in mountains, etc.)
The map looks great visually, cool halloween theme, but for the purpose of KitPVP and how its played in invadedlands, its full of what players complained previous seasons

you realize how bad the map would look right? like last map was terrible because it was flat and had no detail

 

[vQuil]

you realize how bad the map would look right? like last map was terrible because it was flat and had no detail

Last map had plenty of cool stuff, and im not saying there cant be ANY mountains or anything like that, im just saying not to put mountains all over the place when players are known to dislike them

 

[NotAiden]

Do you really just learn nothing from player complaints about mountains, caves and closed spaces? Because this map is filled with them, even next to the spawn drop down. If you try making the argument "oh theres lots of open space for clan fights to happen" thats just not how it works, clans dont just organize themselves to go to a selected part of the map and pvp there, the fights take place all over the map as players constantly bow boosting around trying to escape, which eventually leads to either being bow spammed in a mountain or getting 6v1d inside of a cave.
(Mountains and fence trees that lower FPS the second you get close to there, spawn is basically surrounded in mountains, etc.)
The map looks great visually, cool halloween theme, but for the purpose of KitPVP and how its played in invadedlands, its full of what players complained previous seasons

this map is really good for kiting

 

[_NoFade_]

bro im glad they brought back caves this new map reminds me of the 2020 halloween map

 

[embox]

Do you really just learn nothing from player complaints about mountains, caves and closed spaces? Because this map is filled with them, even next to the spawn drop down

You complain about slabs; we remove them, then you complain about mountains, caves, and closed spaces... please make up your mind

. If you try making the argument "oh theres lots of open space for clan fights to happen" thats just not how it works, clans dont just organize themselves to go to a selected part of the map and pvp there, the fights take place all over the map as players constantly bow boosting around trying to escape, which eventually leads to either being bow spammed in a mountain or getting 6v1d inside of a cave.

The map is very spacious in my opinion, the caves are fine for PVP, and people getting 6v1d inside a cave is uncommon, we cannot make a map that fits every small little niche, that's impossible

(Mountains and fence trees that lower FPS the second you get close to there, spawn is basically surrounded in mountains, etc.)
The map looks great visually, cool halloween theme, but for the purpose of KitPVP and how its played in invadedlands, its full of what players complained previous seasons

If you guys want a flat map then what's the point of having a build team lol

^^^
This is most likely the case
On most build teams important decisions like that are normally decided by whoever is a managing the builders
though builders generally get alot of creative liberty normally, for things like that it’s not for us to decide

builders just have a job to do, and they don’t really have much control over what management decides is best, besides just the average suggestions like changing the specific block palette for something, ect (not sure if that’s how it works here but thats from personal experience from the servers I’ve built for)
the overall job is to just please whoever we’re working for :^)

We build the maps, we are given specifications and we build using those specifications.

 

[vQuil]

You complain about slabs; we remove them, then you complain about mountains, caves, and closed spaces... please make up your mind

The map is very spacious in my opinion, the caves are fine for PVP, and people getting 6v1d inside a cave is uncommon, we cannot make a map that fits every small little niche, that's impossible

If you guys want a flat map then what's the point of having a build team lol



We build the maps, we are given specifications and we build using those specifications.

The slabs were a problem with connection to the server, causing players to lag back and get stuck in them. Mountains, caves and closed spaces have been complained about for as long as i can remember.

Even if the map is spacious in some places, whats the point when all thats gonna happen is youre gonna get 6v1d on the way to those enclosed spaces, not being able to get out because you get stuck in between the mountains

A map dosnt need to be flat entirely, just not bombared with mountains and things players wont strongly dislike (as has happened last seasons)

And yeah, it was my bad, i shouldnt have hated on the team as a whole, they do really have talents for building

 

[_NoFade_]

You complain about slabs; we remove them, then you complain about mountains, caves, and closed spaces... please make up your mind

The map is very spacious in my opinion, the caves are fine for PVP, and people getting 6v1d inside a cave is uncommon, we cannot make a map that fits every small little niche, that's impossible

If you guys want a flat map then what's the point of having a build team lol



We build the maps, we are given specifications and we build using those specifications.

I want the slabs back

 

[ChubbyDog]

Do you really just learn nothing from player complaints about mountains, caves and closed spaces? Because this map is filled with them, even next to the spawn drop down. If you try making the argument "oh theres lots of open space for clan fights to happen" thats just not how it works, clans dont just organize themselves to go to a selected part of the map and pvp there, the fights take place all over the map as players constantly bow boosting around trying to escape, which eventually leads to either being bow spammed in a mountain or getting 6v1d inside of a cave.
(Mountains and fence trees that lower FPS the second you get close to there, spawn is basically surrounded in mountains, etc.)
The map looks great visually, cool halloween theme, but for the purpose of KitPVP and how its played in invadedlands, its full of what players complained previous seasons

Yay Mountain

 

[embox]

The slabs were a problem with connection to the server, causing players to lag back and get stuck in them. Mountains, caves and closed spaces have been complained about for as long as i can remember.

Again, a flat map doesn't fit into the aesthetic, and hardly any kitpvp servers have "flat" maps, which defeats the purpose of the build team. There is plenty of space to pvp in.

Even if the map is spacious in some places, whats the point when all thats gonna happen is youre gonna get 6v1d on the way to those enclosed spaces, not being able to get out because you get stuck in between the mountains

Again, you cannot cater to very specific niches, that is just impossible; Very little people actually get 6v1ed and it's very hard to implement a feature that only benefits a couple of people, and comes with heavy downsides. All I have to say for this is to simply find a way to not let this happen, although that is easier said than done.

A map dosnt need to be flat entirely, just not bombared with mountains and things players wont strongly dislike (as has happened last seasons)

1st quote

And yeah, it was my bad, i shouldnt have hated on the team as a whole, they do really have talents for building

Thanks