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Let’s go over a few things management!

You had over 300 days to look at the nearly 100+ suggestions. Congratulations on a two paragraph update to survival! Incredible! You get a sticker! While @Fabelz and @Blurmit were abusing all day, you guys were hard at work cooking for a version shift. Same thing, just a version shift. @TehNeon's legacy is down the drain. Let's put a grave in the new spawn!

Forums are backed up by nearly a month. Staff members who actually manage the server get neglected. It took you nearly a year to promote @Neptune. So cool! Then you wipe a random and give them trainee with no communication whatsoever to the community. Who the hell are you hiring? Genuine question. You have so many good options with active members, yet you choose the least sensible ones. Your last few trainees got demoted for an array of issues! It seems like we don’t learn from our mistakes. Each new Trainee I see, I actually like @MegaCloud a little more.

The blatant neglect of the player base is so sweet. While your community is growing, staff members hide in vanish, you give us filler updates, OOO! A NEW SPAWN HALLELUJAH!!!! Grab a crate while ur at it. We want active management. We want to feel like the staff actually care, and we are tired of being gaslit by the entire staff team. The deflection whenever someone points a valid finger at a staff member says a lot. The staff applications have a section for a response to criticism, how on earth did you all get past that one. The update is proof that the effort isn't there, and the respect for every player isn't there either. To be so honest, everyone who complains about their forum posts not being responded to are valid. Each time a staff member says, “Be patient,” a little bit of self reflection would be nice. You should all be embarrassed when a person complaining about not being responded to for a literal year goes on forums for help. Each time I had a player report, it would sit for months, and eventually I would have to get a staff member in vanish to pay attention to it. This system is so messed up for an array of reasons.

The politics at this point are laughable. @Hayech, I see how active you are in staff chat. Give us a little taste! Let us know what’s going on! Put that same effort into being a character in a @Skeppy vid you do into the server you’re doing it on. People actually play you know, instead of giving attention to repeat hackers, give attention to the people who make this server possible. @LukeLovesCandy, stop neglecting your staff team. Pull your sh*t together and make it functional. @Mega, come back into the light. Controversy aside, the golden years of invaded are all thanks to you and @TehNeon. Take that spark back please.

I’ve been playing this server since 2019. Things never change, things never will change unless you communicate amongst yourselves, and amongst the community. If you don’t, congratulations. You’re gonna have a repeat of the past few years.

But hey, I’ve only been here for half a decade. At least we get a new spawn!! Wow!!!!
Every thing mentioned here is the Managers faults. The devs not doing anything imporant? Management didnt instruct them to. The INSANELY poor staff and community regulation? Managers deal with that. Half the people on this server with mod and admin are practically inactive, while the ones that are active go unseen by most people 90% of the time. Managers don't do anything about the inactive staff, back then you would get removed from the team if u were like (MOST not all) of the mods are now, and you would get replaced by new staff. Not to mention managers don't even listen to most of their mods, they basically only interact with people that they are actively friends with, besides that from everything i've seen from ex and current staff they basically go unnoticed. Managers could just fire the inactive ones, and hire the many actual active and knowledgeable players that would love to be staff on here, but they dont. Managers don't have property community interactions, even some admins or mods do that, where they just blow off any criticisms you have, completely ego you, & stuff like that. Managers are the worst when it comes to that though. The managers egos are so undeservingly massive, they genuinely are uninsterested in anything a "normal player" has to say to them when it comes to literally anything. A normal suggestion? doesnt matter. Criticism? Ignored. Complaints? ignored. Genuine attention needed? Ego'd/ Given 1 word responses. The old higher ups like mega like you mentioned, zacky, kvids, apex, all of them are the complete opposite of what the managers are now, they were forums active, they were parts of the community, they listened to players, they actually cared. Its no wonder when those guys were here the server was great, now we have appeals that take months to be read, purchase supports that take a year to get resolved, dm's that never get replied to, suggestions that never get looked at, an increasingly dying and toxic community that has no attention put into it besides "Lets camp the jail and ban the cheaters" while the biggest problems of the server go unresolved, making a player report means absolutely nothing when it doesn't get looked at for 2 months and then when it does "Denied, not enough proof" (Automatic response from a button they press), absolutely zero innovation as nothing has been new inputted to ANY of the modes for literal years of any value, besides the kitpvp which last season got a new amazing (Garbage) anticheat (Polar) which false flags everyone and makes u unable to damage people in the most random times, and they drastically decreased the funding for the server, making the pvp quality when 30 players are online worse than hypixel at 60000 players online, The staff which all pretend the issues simply dont exist when they log on and people talk to them about it (Very rare they get on),increasingly predatory gambling systems (The keys) where the only thing worth winning is the Grand prize now, but for some reason it appears every time someone is a top donor for a whole, they get the grand prize specifically twice almost in a row every time, while everyone else gets chat reactions and 3 god kits for your $3 keys. The actual "active" moderators gain nothing from this activity, while someone like ILikeApples has been a mod for ages now yet i can't find anyone who has seen that person online or on the discord or forums or anything in like the past year (thats just 1 example). But since all the top people in power here (the managers) have seemingly brainwashed themselves into seeing nothing is wrong and everything is as should be, or that everything thats bad isn't their fault, no change is going to happen, the server is Only going to keep going downhill like it has for years now, the server honestly should have died ages ago its a miracle there is still loyal people on it for god knows why when there is plenty other servers with better versions of the same modes better communities better staff better everythings, nostalgia is honestly the only reason this server is alive right now, atleast kit. And this doesn't even get into the HORRENDOUS punishment system in place in this server that is based 100% on no investigation, carelessness, favoritism, etc. No place like invaded is known for blacklisting people for doing the same things that other people get temporarily muted for. No place like invaded has a set system of rules when it comes to evidence being provided, only for 80% of the staff team to ignore those rules and punish based on evidence which doesn't follow those rules or sometimes doesn't even exist, going based off their gut, only for those same staff to then allow people like corruptedfiles (just 1 example) to blacklist evade and hard cheat knowingly for months without touching him for months. Only on invaded can 1 person cheat, blacklist evade for a year, chargeback on 30 people, get allowed back on, when another person is never allowed back on the server because someone in a discord server told their friend "what kind of pizza do you want" (joke threat of sending pizza to their door) only for that friend to even vouch for the person it was a joke yet the appeals still get denied. Or even me getting bl'd for a report that used evidence that was EASILY PROVEN beyond a doubt to be 6 months old despite the forums guidelines saying that evidence in a player report CANNOT be over 2 months old, but the report was still accepted, then an appeal explaining it was denied, contacting staff explaining the situation the excuse was long winded but winds down to "shouldn't have done it sucks to be u lol" There is so many examples of the god awful punishment system from just the people I know alone, too much to even bother getting into all of it, just know its awful. god i just wasted so much time typing this
 
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Every thing mentioned here is the Managers faults. The devs not doing anything imporant? Management didnt instruct them to. The INSANELY poor staff and community regulation? Managers deal with that. Half the people on this server with mod and admin are practically inactive, while the ones that are active go unseen by most people 90% of the time. Managers don't do anything about the inactive staff, back then you would get removed from the team if u were like (MOST not all) of the mods are now, and you would get replaced by new staff. Not to mention managers don't even listen to most of their mods, they basically only interact with people that they are actively friends with, besides that from everything i've seen from ex and current staff they basically go unnoticed. Managers could just fire the inactive ones, and hire the many actual active and knowledgeable players that would love to be staff on here, but they dont. Managers don't have property community interactions, even some admins or mods do that, where they just blow off any criticisms you have, completely ego you, & stuff like that. Managers are the worst when it comes to that though. The managers egos are so undeservingly massive, they genuinely are uninsterested in anything a "normal player" has to say to them when it comes to literally anything. A normal suggestion? doesnt matter. Criticism? Ignored. Complaints? ignored. Genuine attention needed? Ego'd/ Given 1 word responses. The old higher ups like mega like you mentioned, zacky, kvids, apex, all of them are the complete opposite of what the managers are now, they were forums active, they were parts of the community, they listened to players, they actually cared. Its no wonder when those guys were here the server was great, now we have appeals that take months to be read, purchase supports that take a year to get resolved, dm's that never get replied to, suggestions that never get looked at, an increasingly dying and toxic community that has no attention put into it besides "Lets camp the jail and ban the cheaters" while the biggest problems of the server go unresolved, making a player report means absolutely nothing when it doesn't get looked at for 2 months and then when it does "Denied, not enough proof" (Automatic response from a button they press), absolutely zero innovation as nothing has been new inputted to ANY of the modes for literal years of any value, besides the kitpvp which last season got a new amazing (Garbage) anticheat (Polar) which false flags everyone and makes u unable to damage people in the most random times, and they drastically decreased the funding for the server, making the pvp quality when 30 players are online worse than hypixel at 60000 players online, The staff which all pretend the issues simply dont exist when they log on and people talk to them about it (Very rare they get on),increasingly predatory gambling systems (The keys) where the only thing worth winning is the Grand prize now, but for some reason it appears every time someone is a top donor for a whole, they get the grand prize specifically twice almost in a row every time, while everyone else gets chat reactions and 3 god kits for your $3 keys. The actual "active" moderators gain nothing from this activity, while someone like ILikeApples has been a mod for ages now yet i can't find anyone who has seen that person online or on the discord or forums or anything in like the past year (thats just 1 example). But since all the top people in power here (the managers) have seemingly brainwashed themselves into seeing nothing is wrong and everything is as should be, or that everything thats bad isn't their fault, no change is going to happen, the server is Only going to keep going downhill like it has for years now, the server honestly should have died ages ago its a miracle there is still loyal people on it for god knows why when there is plenty other servers with better versions of the same modes better communities better staff better everythings, nostalgia is honestly the only reason this server is alive right now, atleast kit. And this doesn't even get into the HORRENDOUS punishment system in place in this server that is based 100% on no investigation, carelessness, favoritism, etc. No place like invaded is known for blacklisting people for doing the same things that other people get temporarily muted for. No place like invaded has a set system of rules when it comes to evidence being provided, only for 80% of the staff team to ignore those rules and punish based on evidence which doesn't follow those rules or sometimes doesn't even exist, going based off their gut, only for those same staff to then allow people like corruptedfiles (just 1 example) to blacklist evade and hard cheat knowingly for months without touching him for months. Only on invaded can 1 person cheat, blacklist evade for a year, chargeback on 30 people, get allowed back on, when another person is never allowed back on the server because someone in a discord server told their friend "what kind of pizza do you want" (joke threat of sending pizza to their door) only for that friend to even vouch for the person it was a joke yet the appeals still get denied. Or even me getting bl'd for a report that used evidence that was EASILY PROVEN beyond a doubt to be 6 months old despite the forums guidelines saying that evidence in a player report CANNOT be over 2 months old, but the report was still accepted, then an appeal explaining it was denied, contacting staff explaining the situation the excuse was long winded but winds down to "shouldn't have done it sucks to be u lol" There is so many examples of the god awful punishment system from just the people I know alone, too much to even bother getting into all of it, just know its awful. god i just wasted so much time typing this
top 5 lowest invaded moments oat
 
Going after the whole staff team (excluding the few people you have singled out as your favourites) who largely have no say in what goes or how the server is run debases your post and your "prospective" entirely.

Invaded is not doing nearly as well as it used to, you're absolutely right. Others here have correctly identified where the responsibility for that lies. Whatever you think of the unpaid volunteer staff team is - frankly - irrelevant to this fact.
 
You do know that going after the entire staff team isn't gonna do anything right? They're just volunteers doing labour here for free, they can't rly do anything about these things
 
Every thing mentioned here is the Managers faults. The devs not doing anything imporant? Management didnt instruct them to. The INSANELY poor staff and community regulation? Managers deal with that. Half the people on this server with mod and admin are practically inactive, while the ones that are active go unseen by most people 90% of the time. Managers don't do anything about the inactive staff, back then you would get removed from the team if u were like (MOST not all) of the mods are now, and you would get replaced by new staff. Not to mention managers don't even listen to most of their mods, they basically only interact with people that they are actively friends with, besides that from everything i've seen from ex and current staff they basically go unnoticed. Managers could just fire the inactive ones, and hire the many actual active and knowledgeable players that would love to be staff on here, but they dont. Managers don't have property community interactions, even some admins or mods do that, where they just blow off any criticisms you have, completely ego you, & stuff like that. Managers are the worst when it comes to that though. The managers egos are so undeservingly massive, they genuinely are uninsterested in anything a "normal player" has to say to them when it comes to literally anything. A normal suggestion? doesnt matter. Criticism? Ignored. Complaints? ignored. Genuine attention needed? Ego'd/ Given 1 word responses. The old higher ups like mega like you mentioned, zacky, kvids, apex, all of them are the complete opposite of what the managers are now, they were forums active, they were parts of the community, they listened to players, they actually cared. Its no wonder when those guys were here the server was great, now we have appeals that take months to be read, purchase supports that take a year to get resolved, dm's that never get replied to, suggestions that never get looked at, an increasingly dying and toxic community that has no attention put into it besides "Lets camp the jail and ban the cheaters" while the biggest problems of the server go unresolved, making a player report means absolutely nothing when it doesn't get looked at for 2 months and then when it does "Denied, not enough proof" (Automatic response from a button they press), absolutely zero innovation as nothing has been new inputted to ANY of the modes for literal years of any value, besides the kitpvp which last season got a new amazing (Garbage) anticheat (Polar) which false flags everyone and makes u unable to damage people in the most random times, and they drastically decreased the funding for the server, making the pvp quality when 30 players are online worse than hypixel at 60000 players online, The staff which all pretend the issues simply dont exist when they log on and people talk to them about it (Very rare they get on),increasingly predatory gambling systems (The keys) where the only thing worth winning is the Grand prize now, but for some reason it appears every time someone is a top donor for a whole, they get the grand prize specifically twice almost in a row every time, while everyone else gets chat reactions and 3 god kits for your $3 keys. The actual "active" moderators gain nothing from this activity, while someone like ILikeApples has been a mod for ages now yet i can't find anyone who has seen that person online or on the discord or forums or anything in like the past year (thats just 1 example). But since all the top people in power here (the managers) have seemingly brainwashed themselves into seeing nothing is wrong and everything is as should be, or that everything thats bad isn't their fault, no change is going to happen, the server is Only going to keep going downhill like it has for years now, the server honestly should have died ages ago its a miracle there is still loyal people on it for god knows why when there is plenty other servers with better versions of the same modes better communities better staff better everythings, nostalgia is honestly the only reason this server is alive right now, atleast kit. And this doesn't even get into the HORRENDOUS punishment system in place in this server that is based 100% on no investigation, carelessness, favoritism, etc. No place like invaded is known for blacklisting people for doing the same things that other people get temporarily muted for. No place like invaded has a set system of rules when it comes to evidence being provided, only for 80% of the staff team to ignore those rules and punish based on evidence which doesn't follow those rules or sometimes doesn't even exist, going based off their gut, only for those same staff to then allow people like corruptedfiles (just 1 example) to blacklist evade and hard cheat knowingly for months without touching him for months. Only on invaded can 1 person cheat, blacklist evade for a year, chargeback on 30 people, get allowed back on, when another person is never allowed back on the server because someone in a discord server told their friend "what kind of pizza do you want" (joke threat of sending pizza to their door) only for that friend to even vouch for the person it was a joke yet the appeals still get denied. Or even me getting bl'd for a report that used evidence that was EASILY PROVEN beyond a doubt to be 6 months old despite the forums guidelines saying that evidence in a player report CANNOT be over 2 months old, but the report was still accepted, then an appeal explaining it was denied, contacting staff explaining the situation the excuse was long winded but winds down to "shouldn't have done it sucks to be u lol" There is so many examples of the god awful punishment system from just the people I know alone, too much to even bother getting into all of it, just know its awful. god i just wasted so much time typing this
This is a little extreme. your points going after the mods aren't really valid. Everything else you have a right to complain about. Please let it be clear that my issues don't really lie within the current volunteer staff. I started this thread in a little more of an extreme light because as of right now, it feels like the respect is gone. We are in such a circle where progress is at a standstill, and people have been complaining for years just to be gaslit in return. I'd like a statement from @LukeLovesCandy or @Hayech on when and where it gets better. for now it's just non-stop neglecting the community. I am still absolutely shocked that for the past 2 updates, they haven't taken one suggestion and implemented it.
If you take a look at the previous survival update from a year ago, there were virtually no changes, just a version shift with shop modernization. @LukeLovesCandy where are the new features? THIS ANNOUNCEMENT should be the standard. @Fabelz are we ever getting this in the future? It's sad to me. That's all. I was scrolling through reset announcements and found this kit reset post. it's valid to point out that this is what the narrative used to be. What happened? Why do we have forums if management isn't going to listen to us?
I said it best here. We need to go back to communication. It shouldn't be a privilege to receive information and openness from management, and it shouldn't be uncommon to get new content. This community deserves better.
 
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GLORY TO AFFIXES榮耀歸於獨真神 獨真主願他看顧我們全能 我們向全能的詞綴祈禱榮耀歸於獨真神 獨真主願他看顧我們全能 我們向全能的詞綴祈禱榮耀歸於獨真神 獨真主願他看顧我們全能 我們向全能的詞綴祈禱榮耀歸於獨真神 獨真主願他看顧我們全能 我們向全能的詞綴祈禱INVADEDLANDS榮耀歸於祈禱榮耀歸於獨真神 獨真主願他看顧我AMAZING MANAGER們全能 我們向全能的詞綴祈禱榮耀歸於獨真神 獨HE SHALL SAVE US真主願他看顧我們全能 我們向全能的詞綴祈禱榮耀歸於獨真神 獨真主願他看顧我們全能 我們向全GLORY TO AFFIXES能的詞綴祈禱
you just unlocked a memory LMAO
 
Let’s go over a few things management!

You had over 300 days to look at the nearly 100+ suggestions. Congratulations on a two paragraph update to survival! Incredible! You get a sticker! While @Fabelz and @Blurmit were abusing all day, you guys were hard at work cooking for a version shift. Same thing, just a version shift. @TehNeon's legacy is down the drain. Let's put a grave in the new spawn!

Forums are backed up by nearly a month. Staff members who actually manage the server get neglected. It took you nearly a year to promote @Neptune. So cool! Then you wipe a random and give them trainee with no communication whatsoever to the community. Who the hell are you hiring? Genuine question. You have so many good options with active members, yet you choose the least sensible ones. Your last few trainees got demoted for an array of issues! It seems like we don’t learn from our mistakes. Each new Trainee I see, I actually like @MegaCloud a little more.

The blatant neglect of the player base is so sweet. While your community is growing, staff members hide in vanish, you give us filler updates, OOO! A NEW SPAWN HALLELUJAH!!!! Grab a crate while ur at it. We want active management. We want to feel like the staff actually care, and we are tired of being gaslit by the entire staff team. The deflection whenever someone points a valid finger at a staff member says a lot. The staff applications have a section for a response to criticism, how on earth did you all get past that one. The update is proof that the effort isn't there, and the respect for every player isn't there either. To be so honest, everyone who complains about their forum posts not being responded to are valid. Each time a staff member says, “Be patient,” a little bit of self reflection would be nice. You should all be embarrassed when a person complaining about not being responded to for a literal year goes on forums for help. Each time I had a player report, it would sit for months, and eventually I would have to get a staff member in vanish to pay attention to it. This system is so messed up for an array of reasons.

The politics at this point are laughable. @Hayech, I see how active you are in staff chat. Give us a little taste! Let us know what’s going on! Put that same effort into being a character in a @Skeppy vid you do into the server you’re doing it on. People actually play you know, instead of giving attention to repeat hackers, give attention to the people who make this server possible. @LukeLovesCandy, stop neglecting your staff team. Pull your sh*t together and make it functional. @Mega, come back into the light. Controversy aside, the golden years of invaded are all thanks to you and @TehNeon. Take that spark back please.

I’ve been playing this server since 2019. Things never change, things never will change unless you communicate amongst yourselves, and amongst the community. If you don’t, congratulations. You’re gonna have a repeat of the past few years.

But hey, I’ve only been here for half a decade. At least we get a new spawn!! Wow!!!!
hey, don't complain too hard or they'll shutdown the forums and survival for months like they did in 2022!
 
So many amazing points and we dodnt even talk about how slow /fly's timer recharges. I was mad wheh the tinee got added, but to see that it recharges 1 secind per fucking minute or sum is craazzzyy
 
Let’s go over a few things management!

You had over 300 days to look at the nearly 100+ suggestions. Congratulations on a two paragraph update to survival! Incredible! You get a sticker! While @Fabelz and @Blurmit were abusing all day, you guys were hard at work cooking for a version shift. Same thing, just a version shift. @TehNeon's legacy is down the drain. Let's put a grave in the new spawn!

Forums are backed up by nearly a month. Staff members who actually manage the server get neglected. It took you nearly a year to promote @Neptune. So cool! Then you wipe a random and give them trainee with no communication whatsoever to the community. Who the hell are you hiring? Genuine question. You have so many good options with active members, yet you choose the least sensible ones. Your last few trainees got demoted for an array of issues! It seems like we don’t learn from our mistakes. Each new Trainee I see, I actually like @MegaCloud a little more.

The blatant neglect of the player base is so sweet. While your community is growing, staff members hide in vanish, you give us filler updates, OOO! A NEW SPAWN HALLELUJAH!!!! Grab a crate while ur at it. We want active management. We want to feel like the staff actually care, and we are tired of being gaslit by the entire staff team. The deflection whenever someone points a valid finger at a staff member says a lot. The staff applications have a section for a response to criticism, how on earth did you all get past that one. The update is proof that the effort isn't there, and the respect for every player isn't there either. To be so honest, everyone who complains about their forum posts not being responded to are valid. Each time a staff member says, “Be patient,” a little bit of self reflection would be nice. You should all be embarrassed when a person complaining about not being responded to for a literal year goes on forums for help. Each time I had a player report, it would sit for months, and eventually I would have to get a staff member in vanish to pay attention to it. This system is so messed up for an array of reasons.

The politics at this point are laughable. @Hayech, I see how active you are in staff chat. Give us a little taste! Let us know what’s going on! Put that same effort into being a character in a @Skeppy vid you do into the server you’re doing it on. People actually play you know, instead of giving attention to repeat hackers, give attention to the people who make this server possible. @LukeLovesCandy, stop neglecting your staff team. Pull your sh*t together and make it functional. @Mega, come back into the light. Controversy aside, the golden years of invaded are all thanks to you and @TehNeon. Take that spark back please.

I’ve been playing this server since 2019. Things never change, things never will change unless you communicate amongst yourselves, and amongst the community. If you don’t, congratulations. You’re gonna have a repeat of the past few years.

But hey, I’ve only been here for half a decade. At least we get a new spawn!! Wow!!!!
You, my friend, are so right, I have a feeling everyone who actually plays agrees with you.

Small issue; the staff will probably never see this. They don't really care about the server, all they care about is "hey I can be in a skeppy video now woohoo!!!".

I miss the old times where Skeppy and Zelk actually did something to the server. Zelk is busy with IRL stuff and Skeppy just makes 100 kids and survival xray vids now. It literally feels like Skeppy *wants* this server to die. I hate it with all my heart.

I talked with csyre on Discord for a bit, he mentioned that he probably denied around 50+ staff applications, I can guarantee with all my heart that atleast 5 of them were legit and from players who actually play. But why did they get denied? "You don't meet the requirements". It's bullshit.

I applied for staff myself too, I spent a big 2 hours on writing the app, it's a 1900 word essay basically. All I got was a "Thank you for applying, you don't meet the requirements so therefore we cannot accept your application at this time."

You see how that's the reason this server is dead? If they were to just accept some applications, from members that are known, from members that are active, this server might aswell go back to being it's prime it was in 2021. But no, we got a fucking random trainee who I've NEVER heard about, seen, or even knew existed.

All the staff members that made the server good (cotx, hamodi, fr0sty, blahblah) all left because the server basically felt like a trap. I talked to Hamodi and Cotx, they both found it awesome in the beginning but the longer they stayed, the more toxic it became.

I know I'm just ranting about shit at this point but it just angers me that Invaded isn't getting the recognition it can have.
 
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