Defaults vs. Ranked

[ArthurXmas17]

This probably a weird topic to come on to but I have recently been noticing these inequalities throughout the server between the "nons" and the "ranked" so I wanted to bring up a bit of maths and opinion.

I log at 7am EST onto the server (1pm Europe time) and here is what I notice:

Fifty two players are on. Yet if I look at the tab only seventeen of these seem to have ranks. That means that there is around 34% of the server at this time that is ranked and therefore 66% is what we ranked people and what general people would call a "non". Clearly "nons" have the majority in number and we see a lot more "nons" talking in the chat than ranked people. That doesn't stop an obvious separation between the two categories.

As far as I know from the big teams that are on this server (Team X, Simp Squad etc...) I have seen that none of these teams have a default in them. (I may be wrong for team X because it is so big but for Simp Squad I am sure and a few others to I am sure). Only our Team, Un-named Team has a default, Armzgramz.

By saying this I do not want to criticise any other teams for not having a "non" in their team, I am just pointing out one of these facts that clearly shocks me.

This demonstrates to the new people a sense that only ranked people can do well, make big builds, public farms, grind and get billions of dollars in game and I am hopeful and quite sure that this is an un-intentional message but Armzgramz was sharing his feelings with us about this and I had to note this down.

We see here that some ranked people (not going to say names) may not want defaults helping or working for them. Yet on our teal Armzgramz the default is literally no joke the best builder, engineer (I do outsmart him at spawner mechanics though but thats besides the point) and he contributes so much to our team. I am very shocked that other teams may not look the same way as we do at defaults.

To conclude this message, I think some sort of Minecraft "apartheid" is starting to form, the minority taking power only because of their "higher rank". I don't wanna be the one trying to do politics in Minecraft I just want to say that as ranked people, we should appreciate defaults at their value.

Of course, you may not agree with this message and I will gladly take comments, I just wanted to point out a fact that is clearly bothering me.

Wishing your eyes not to have died by the end of reading this!

Arthur

 

[ArthurXmas17]

I forgot to mention that this applies for Survival, I don't know about other parts of Invaded

 

[Milk_]

We see here that some ranked people (not going to say names) may not want defaults helping or working for them. Yet on our teal Armzgramz the default is literally no joke the best builder, engineer (I do outsmart him at spawner mechanics though but thats besides the point) and he contributes so much to our team. I am very shocked that other teams may not look the same way as we do at defaults.

they dont want nons working for them because they are probably new,don't understand the rules and will probably grief

 

[ArthurXmas17]

they dont want nons working for them because they are probably new,don't understand the rules and will probably grief

I'd like to add emphasis on the "probably". Just because some people out there are new and are "nons" doesn't mean they are necessarily bad people. This is what I'm talking about

 

[System64]

I've played with other nons and they're chill and it's fun to play with them, the rank doesn't make someone not grief, as we have already seen. Still, ranks do give helpful advantages, and having someone on a team with 1 filled pv, no fly or other perms, and only default kit would be somewhat annoying as they'd have to be carried.

 

[Milk_]

I've played with other nons and they're chill and it's fun to play with them, the rank doesn't make someone not grief, as we have already seen. Still, ranks do give helpful advantages, and having someone on a team with 1 filled pv, no fly or other perms, and only default kit would be somewhat annoying as they'd have to be carried.

yes thats what i mean, they are a lot more useful than people without those extra perms

 

[Lucke]

lol jus realized u prob got idea to post this from my post about ded server


pog champ

 

[Elementalish]

Idrc about whether you're a "non" or not, I'm just here to have fun and make new friends.

 

[Nathan_97]

Idrc about whether you're a "non" or not, I'm just here to have fun and make new friends.

I wrote a huge reply to all the points I disagreed with then I saw this post

+1 Elementalish

 

[System64]

I wrote a huge reply to all the points I disagreed with then I saw this post

+1 Elementalish

you can still write the reply, this is a discussion thread and discussion is allowed

 

[Atowclicker]

The best way to get more into any community on invaded(survival,kit, and etc) as a default rank is just be active and active. People will notice you and you will get clout. It worked for me so it should for my other brotherns.

 

[Chimken]

I'd just like to say most of the time we rank up our default friends. So yeah.

 

[System64]

The best way to get more into any community on invaded(survival,kit, and etc) as a default rank is just be active and active. People will notice you and you will get clout. It worked for me so it should for my other brotherns.

Default is the best rank for real pros

 

[Doodles4]

they dont want nons working for them because they are probably new,don't understand the rules and will probably grief

Excuse me sir, but a huge quantity of ranked players are probably also noobs and will grief. I have been playing for 2 years and I’m a non. A lot of veterans on this server are barely able to make a living and you expect them to buy a rank on a block game so they can be “trustworthy”? Don’t make statements like this unless you know what your talking about. I’d honestly expect better from you milk.

 

[Atowclicker]

The idea of ranks being trustworthy in the community is true and not true. On skyblock I remember there was a scammer who was comet rip their career.

 

[Peek]

i’m just gonna say this here:

1:most people dont have the money to buy ranks
2: most people aren’t allowed/able to use paypal

ranks are just perks and i honestly dont know why people are comparing the difference because all-in-all its the same server we all play on.

 

[ArthurXmas17]

lol jus realized u prob got idea to post this from my post about ded server


pog champ

Some of it did

I wrote a huge reply to all the points I disagreed with then I saw this post

+1 Elementalish

I understand this, thank you for sharing your opinion

I'd just like to say most of the time we rank up our default friends. So yeah.

But they still go through the phase of being a default, we all have

The idea of ranks being trustworthy in the community is true and not true. On skyblock I remember there was a scammer who was comet rip their career.

Take that as Acruse on Survival, Immortal tp trapper + scammer

 

[Peek]

they dont want nons working for them because they are probably new,don't understand the rules and will probably grief

its not the nons that people dont trust its that usaully people that stay longer and get a rank for more perks, but rank or no rank the acctuall person behind the screen is the same so what u on about

 

[System64]

Excuse me sir, but a huge quantity of ranked players are probably also noobs and will grief. I have been playing for 2 years and I’m a non. A lot of veterans on this server are barely able to make a living and you expect them to buy a rank on a block game so they can be “trustworthy”? Don’t make statements like this unless you know what your talking about. I’d honestly expect better from you milk.

the "Ranked = more trustable" stereotype was born because ranked players are actually more noticeable in chat, and they're often much more well-known than unranked players. Everyone knows Imonmolly, but you won't remember the name of that non that scammed you seventeen days ago. So if you know a ranked player you usually know if they scam or not, which means you're likely to choose ranked players you know. Unranked players are pretty much not noticed unless:
- they buy a tag
- some ranked player knows them somehow and interacts with them
- they're known for something else (for example forums)

 

[Doodles4]

the "Ranked = more trustable" stereotype was born because ranked players are actually more noticeable in chat, and they're often much more well-known than unranked players. Everyone knows Imonmolly, but you won't remember the name of that non that scammed you seventeen days ago. So if you know a ranked player you usually know if they scam or not, which means you're likely to choose ranked players you know. Unranked players are pretty much not noticed unless:
- they buy a tag
- some ranked player knows them somehow and interacts with them
- they're known for something else (for example forums)

That’s legit the only reason people know I exist
- I’m close friends with ranked players
- Im a forums tryhard