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A bunch of the fanbases of the smaller YouTubers in Hermitcraft are really nice. Take JoeHills' community, or StressMonster, or Rendog, or FalseSymmetry. They're not without idiots of course, but they are really nice. JoeHills in particular has quite a few stans that are actually really nice and use their brains, and don't just go around hurtling death threats at people.

He simply commented pointing out that the run was very likely faked, he didn't insult the dude, and he still didn't have plans to cheat considering 1.16 and its RNG still weren't known.

He's not the reason for that, that's one of the most absurd things I've heard, and you've quoted only two events to demonstrate he's immature, one of which I wouldn't even count.


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What has the rest of the community done to you anyway? What have normal stans done to you? What even do you have against Dream? So far you've brought two cases of immaturity and one totally absurd claim that he can stop the toxic stans.

No it would not have. All the videos on YouTube simply go over the math and ultimately only conclude that it's "very likely" he could've cheated, or that there's no way to know for sure. Saying "I cheated" would've ended his speedrunning career and started a storm of YouTube videos and cancelling, as long as permanently staining his reputation without shade of doubt.

I don't think Techno's community's really suffering from that, and I think you're generalizing way too much here. The Dream SMP was made in good intent, if a few braindead people are being braindead that's not Dream's or anyone's fault.

So far we don't have proof that it's all staged. Dream has released full videos of manhunts and debunked in a very logic way any claim on that. Also, going by your logic, the entire HermitCraft server should be cancelled since 99.9% of their farms are SciCraft designs.

If a YouTube video does nothing, then why are you attacking him for not making a youtube video condemning them?

Still extremely immature, since you're condemning precisely what you're doing.

This is true, however you can see my previous messages on why he is partially excused

I think it's much better to produce actual content and put PewDiePie in the title than what other youtubers are doing.

What is there to prove? You've said yourself that making a video won't stop braindead people, I don't think there's much else he can do to stop them. I'm not downplaying the amount of stans, but keep in mind that only a very small minority of stans are the actual troublemakers and toxic braindead people.
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A bunch of the fanbases of the smaller YouTubers in Hermitcraft are really nice. Take JoeHills' community, or StressMonster, or Rendog, or FalseSymmetry. They're not without idiots of course, but they are really nice. JoeHills in particular has quite a few stans that are actually really nice and use their brains, and don't just go around hurtling death threats at people.
Fair enough although a majority of communities have been ruined due to this.
He simply commented pointing out that the run was very likely faked, he didn't insult the dude, and he still didn't have plans to cheat considering 1.16 and its RNG still weren't known.
What do you expect? As I've said he has a fanbase of toxic children ready to raid anyone he insults. I mean when you have influence over people it is expected that you are able to manage them.
He's not the reason for that, that's one of the most absurd things I've heard, and you've quoted only two events to demonstrate he's immature, one of which I wouldn't even count.
He is absolutely responsible for it.
A bunch of the fanbases of the smaller YouTubers in Hermitcraft are really nice. Take JoeHills' community, or StressMonster, or Rendog, or FalseSymmetry. They're not without idiots of course, but they are really nice. JoeHills in particular has quite a few stans that are actually really nice and use their brains, and don't just go around hurtling death threats at people.

He simply commented pointing out that the run was very likely faked, he didn't insult the dude, and he still didn't have plans to cheat considering 1.16 and its RNG still weren't known.

He's not the reason for that, that's one of the most absurd things I've heard, and you've quoted only two events to demonstrate he's immature, one of which I wouldn't even count.


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What has the rest of the community done to you anyway? What have normal stans done to you? What even do you have against Dream? So far you've brought two cases of immaturity and one totally absurd claim that he can stop the toxic stans.
I don't hold any major grudges against the rest of the Dream community as I have said. It really does seem like you're trying to twist my words here System. And as for the cases both of them are completely valid cases that I wont bother explaining why since I've explained why multiple times throughout this.
No it would not have. All the videos on YouTube simply go over the math and ultimately only conclude that it's "very likely" he could've cheated, or that there's no way to know for sure. Saying "I cheated" would've ended his speedrunning career and started a storm of YouTube videos and cancelling, as long as permanently staining his reputation without shade of doubt.
Yes it would have. The videos right now are saying that he cheated AND that he acted immaturely. If he had admitted the videos would have covered it of course and confirm the math and that's all. Instead they're calling him out on lying now which just leaves a deeper stain.
I don't think Techno's community's really suffering from that, and I think you're generalizing way too much here. The Dream SMP was made in good intent, if a few braindead people are being braindead that's not Dream's or anyone's fault.
Techno's community has very much been affected by this. Even if the Dream SMP was made in good intent it has become a place where content gets milked and where stans are formed.
So far we don't have proof that it's all staged. Dream has released full videos of manhunts and debunked in a very logic way any claim on that. Also, going by your logic, the entire HermitCraft server should be cancelled since 99.9% of their farms are SciCraft designs.
Nope not at all because HermiCraft doesn't it pass it down as their own or at least add to their designs.
If a YouTube video does nothing, then why are you attacking him for not making a youtube video condemning them?
But I didn't? I didn't attack Dream for not making a video as I know it would fall flat.
Still extremely immature, since you're condemning precisely what you're doing.
Fight fire with fire my friend we need to give stans a taste of their own medicine. For example the #ripdream hashtag on twitter started by the anti stans in January? Yeah we need more of that
This is true, however you can see my previous messages on why he is partially excused
He's not excused.
I think it's much better to produce actual content and put PewDiePie in the title than what other youtubers are doing.
He didn't just put PewDiePie in the title he based the entire video off of it. I mean sure it's actual content but that doesn't negate my original statement that he clout chased.
What is there to prove? You've said yourself that making a video won't stop braindead people, I don't think there's much else he can do to stop them. I'm not downplaying the amount of stans, but keep in mind that only a very small minority of stans are the actual troublemakers and toxic braindead people.
As I've said he can stop them by stepping up and acting maturely instead of going on a fit like a little kid when someone calls him up. In other words he needs to grow up. You are downplaying the amount of stans, there's a lot more than you would think.
 
its been like 20 minutes since someone responded in anything that can me the slightest bit toxic, theres legit 0 point in tagging a staff 20m later when its already done with
you just proved my point. look at the responses
 
you just proved my point. look at the responses
it's literally over, no one else is bringing up toxicity, its done already. the topic has been dropped, thats why no one else responded. there is no point in locking after it has happened and been done with. it's over already.
 
What do you expect? As I've said he has a fanbase of toxic children ready to raid anyone he insults. I mean when you have influence over people it is expected that you are able to manage them.
He didn't insult the guy, he pointed out how his run was likely faked, and anyone would expect people to not send death threats.
He is absolutely responsible for it.
He can't control his braindead fans. He can't stop everything from happening. There's little telling when something'll get his braindead stans to send death threats.
I don't hold any major grudges against the rest of the Dream community as I have said. It really does seem like you're trying to twist my words here System.
I just read a few contradictions, but maybe it was just badly worded.
And as for the cases both of them are completely valid cases that I wont bother explaining why since I've explained why multiple times throughout this.
And I've replied explaining why they're not valid multiple times throughout this, but you've simply replied repeating what you said before.
Yes it would have. The videos right now are saying that he cheated AND that he acted immaturely. If he had admitted the videos would have covered it of course and confirm the math and that's all. Instead they're calling him out on lying now which just leaves a deeper stain.
Nope. As you saw before, there is still a number of people believing dream, and also a large number of people who are undecided. Had he admitted, he would've simply not been able to stream any speedrun attempts at all.
Techno's community has very much been affected by this. Even if the Dream SMP was made in good intent it has become a place where content gets milked and where stans are formed.
And why is this Dream's fault? Also why are you targeting the stans? Target the braindead ones, grouping all stans together is a very rough generalization.
Nope not at all because HermiCraft doesn't it pass it down as their own or at least add to their designs.
Nor does Dream claim he came up with things that he actually saw on Reddit.
But I didn't? I didn't attack Dream for not making a video as I know it would fall flat.
You said it was his fault for not being clearly against the braindead stans until he made his video.
Fight fire with fire my friend we need to give stans a taste of their own medicine. For example the #ripdream hashtag on twitter started by the anti stans in January? Yeah we need more of that
Nope, because first of all the braindead people aren't going to stop at a hashtag, the normal stans will be attacked unfairly, and you're also attacking the creator as well as lowering yourself to the level of people sending death threats.
He's not excused.
He is partially excused, see my previous messages for the reasoning
He didn't just put PewDiePie in the title he based the entire video off of it. I mean sure it's actual content but that doesn't negate my original statement that he clout chased.
I'm not negating your statement, I'm simply questioning the fact that you put Dream at the same level of YouTubers who clickbait or copy MrBeast videos - or so it seemed from your message, at least, maybe you just worded it badly. Still, there are so many people putting famous names in their titles, one out of two videos from Davie504 recently contain clickbait titles with famous people, he got lucky and produced actually interesting content and people decided to subscribe - props to him for that.
As I've said he can stop them by stepping up and acting maturely instead of going on a fit like a little kid when someone calls him up. In other words he needs to grow up. You are downplaying the amount of stans, there's a lot more than you would think.
Why do you keep targeting the stans in general? Target the braindead toxic ones, not the other innocent ones.
 
i’m gonna get attacked for this but like.....
dream stans aren’t that bad.......

i don’t think it’s a crime to enjoy watching a youtuber..
it’s weird when people are OBSESSED and just weird about dream but when someone just enjoys watching dreams content, i don’t think that’s a bad thing.....
anyone who is just subscribed to him is called a dream stan and apparently that defines them as a person. it really doesn’t....

okay thanks for coming to my ted talk

edit: not gonna respond to this thread anymore, don’t feel like arguing but my point is: yes, there’s crazy ass bitches but also people who aren’t crazy are being attacked for just liking a mcyter.
stanning people as much to the level you have the same skin as them is honestly pathetic to me
 
it's literally over, no one else is bringing up toxicity, its done already. the topic has been dropped, thats why no one else responded. there is no point in locking after it has happened and been done with. it's over already.
it’s not over. you’re arguing with me. i asked to lock it to prevent this. you’re proving my point from yesterday. there’s actually still 2 other people arguing other than us.
 
He didn't insult the guy, he pointed out how his run was likely faked, and anyone would expect people to not send death threats.

He can't control his braindead fans. He can't stop everything from happening. There's little telling when something'll get his braindead stans to send death threats.

I just read a few contradictions, but maybe it was just badly worded.

And I've replied explaining why they're not valid multiple times throughout this, but you've simply replied repeating what you said before.

Nope. As you saw before, there is still a number of people believing dream, and also a large number of people who are undecided. Had he admitted, he would've simply not been able to stream any speedrun attempts at all.

And why is this Dream's fault? Also why are you targeting the stans? Target the braindead ones, grouping all stans together is a very rough generalization.

Nor does Dream claim he came up with things that he actually saw on Reddit.

You said it was his fault for not being clearly against the braindead stans until he made his video.

Nope, because first of all the braindead people aren't going to stop at a hashtag, the normal stans will be attacked unfairly, and you're also attacking the creator as well as lowering yourself to the level of people sending death threats.

He is partially excused, see my previous messages for the reasoning

I'm not negating your statement, I'm simply questioning the fact that you put Dream at the same level of YouTubers who clickbait or copy MrBeast videos - or so it seemed from your message, at least, maybe you just worded it badly. Still, there are so many people putting famous names in their titles, one out of two videos from Davie504 recently contain clickbait titles with famous people, he got lucky and produced actually interesting content and people decided to subscribe - props to him for that.

Why do you keep targeting the stans in general? Target the braindead toxic ones, not the other innocent ones.
@Z_Voltage sir?? this was about 5 mins ago. this is why i asked this to be locked. point: proven. you: stupid
 
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