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The Remaining Applicants & The Toxicity Towards Them

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The Remaining Applicants & The Toxicity Towards Them

I don't want more beef to be started but I am bored and it would be interesting hehe.
....ok listen i was convinced to do this so um here we go, problematic ash is back at it again!
Speaking of the "oldgens" on this server, many of you seem to have a fear of change.
i assume you aren't familiar w/ twisted/lasike, smooved, or other shitty past trainees. you joined the legacy forums in october, which is way past when they were an issue. note that that's when you joined to talk about someone tree griefing, so you weren't super actively involved in the community. that's why the "oldgens" "don't like change", because the last time they hired random new minimods, there were a bunch of false punishments, griefed discord servers, etc etc.
Welcoming new people who you've never met before can be uncomfortable at first, but you have to push through it. Change is an inevitable part of everything that we all need to adapt to at some point or another.
literally no one is saying that new players aren't welcome on the server. play on it all you want. what we don't want is for new random players who only know how to request locks and write a decent app in a position of power, especially above players who regularly play on the server.
If you find yourself becoming angry about new players joining, ask yourself this: "Why am I angry?" I believe that meeting more people who enjoy the same thing(s) you do should be a positive experience, not a negative one. If it's a negative experience for you, what can you do to make it more positive?
u are misunderstanding the toxicity completely. no one is being mean to you because you're new, as a matter of fact, i haven't seen anyone really directly been mean to you. people have said this trainee season is going to be shit, and they're right lol.
but they should use this as a way to improve upon themselves and come back as an even better candidate next season.
for a majority of the denied candidates, it wasn't an issue of "they need to better themselves and improve upon themselves" lmfaoooo. it's the higherups being exceptionally nitpicky and holding tiny things against players. for example, if you've seen laylim's app (if hes chosen to share it with you) then you would know he is by far the most qualified person to be staff out of everyone who applied, and if you know the situation with his past demotion, you'd know why it's so frustrating to see that he can't get it, but random new players can. please stop talking when you don't know what you're talking about.
from what I've seen and heard, they're all great people
that's the issue bro!!! you don't know them!!! you don't know some very regular players on this server!! you didn't mention other people who were being commonly rooted for, embox, joe, twisst, velo, etc etc etc. we don't want someone who doesn't even know regular players to be in such a position of power ? you barely know the community, cmon man.
all kudos to you, you've been a great minimod and considering that the higherups in charge of accepting staff apps have already shown that this season is going to bring forth another batch of random trainees, im sure you'll be a great trainee too ? if you end up being accepted, please take care of the server. the "oldgens" aren't being toxic for no reason, its bc they've all seen the server go to shit bc of random ass people being chosen for staff and we don't want to see it again.

honorable mentions of dumb replies to this thread:
Some that I have already mentioned are completely fake and it would be a shame to see them become staff as they did not apply to help the server.
u attacked someone solely bc they were friends w me by sending ur friend to repeatedly be racist to him and then running to hamodi when he tried to defend himself, and yet out of all the times you cried about velo applying for stream clout, you never went after him. interesting. stop pretending you care about this server bro, all ur intentions are self focused im so weakkkkk
I mean just because they are famous and known around the server doesn’t mean they are a perfect candidate.
no one on this server is famous. its a community. if someone is well known and commonly being rooted for, its because the community knows them and unanimously agrees they would be a good candidate. bc we know them. as a friend. and we know they would be a good choice. its not fame its just knowing someone?? lol
Just because you don’t like survival doesn’t make it a bad server. You are toxic all over the forums, learn to be nice :)
i used to complain with you, all "why are the ogs so mean to people who main sky and surv :(" and coming from the other side, trust me, it's well deserved. the communities change so fast, new people are constantly in and out of there. friendships are fucked up and new people run the server every other month. like he said, it literally IS full of randoms lol
The thing is, you're completely missing why me and so many others are so worried about this idiotic season.
As @Laylim mentioned, this season is going to be extremely similar to the summer season. Just like the current situation, about 12 staff members were chosen. About 8 of them complete ransoms whom we never heard of.
First of all, they got so much hate for them being chosen it's unbelievable. They got toxicity from every single direction and never got appreciated for their work. Exactly why people usually say randoms should not be chosen.
Second, all of these trainees except for Nicki, Della and LayLim didn't know shit about what they were doing, and were later demoted for that or even abuse. Not to mention one of them was later demoted for leaking IPs and ruined the council discord after being told so.

You clearly know nothing about this community so please stop making these idiotic statements as they're completely false and inaccurate.
i didn't even read this thread all the way through before i typed this out but mcdonalds is fr the only person on the forums rn with any common sense. he said it perfectly.
no one cares if you're new on the server. the people who are being "toxic" are the people who care about the server and don't want it to go to shit again.
whichever minimods get accepted this season, i genuinely hope that they take care of the server and follow the guidelines and don't **** things up. i hope this isn't a repeat of summer, but from what i've seen/heard from the remaining applicants, its not looking good. at all.
anyways hehexd mcdonalds is the only smart person on forums end of story
 
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....ok listen i was convinced to do this so um here we go, problematic ash is back at it again!

i assume you aren't familiar w/ twisted/lasike, smooved, or other shitty past trainees. you joined the legacy forums in october, which is way past when they were an issue. note that that's when you joined to talk about someone tree griefing, so you weren't super actively involve. dthat's why the "oldgens" "don't like change", because the last time they hired random new minimods, a bunch of false punishments, griefed discord servers, etc etc.

literally no one is saying that new players aren't welcome on the server. play on it all you want. what we don't want is for new random players who only know how to request locks and write a decent app in a position of power, especially above players who regularly play on the server.

u are misunderstanding the toxicity completely. no one is being mean to you because you're new, as a matter of fact, i haven't seen anyone really directly been mean to you. people have said this trainee season is going to be shit, and they're right lol.

for a majority of the denied candidates, it wasn't an issue of "they need to better themselves and improve upon themselves" lmfaoooo. it's the higherups being exceptionally nitpicky and holding tiny things against players. for example, if you've seen laylim's app (if hes chosen to share it with you) then you would know he is by far the most qualified person to be staff out of everyone who applied, and if you know the situation with his past demotion, you'd know why it's so frustrating to see that he can't get it, but random new players can. please stop talking when you don't know what you're talking about.

that's the issue bro!!! you don't know them!!! you don't know some very regular players on this server!! you didn't mention other people who were being commonly rooted for, embox, joe, twisst, velo, etc etc etc. we don't want someone who doesn't even know regular players to be in such a position of power ? you barely know the community, cmon man.
all kudos to you, you've been a great minimod and considering that the higherups in charge of accepting staff apps have already shown that this season is going to bring forth another batch of random trainees, im sure you'll be a great trainee too ? if you end up being accepted, please take care of the server. the "oldgens" aren't being toxic for no reason, its bc they've all seen the server go to shit bc of random ass people being chosen for staff and we don't want to see it again.

honorable mentions of dumb replies to this thread:

u attacked someone solely bc they were friends w me by sending ur friend to repeatedly be racist to him and then running to hamodi when he tried to defend himself, and yet out of all the times you cried about velo applying for stream clout, you never went after him. interesting. stop pretending you care about this server bro, all ur intentions are self focused im so weakkkkk

no one on this server is famous. its a community. if someone is well known and commonly being rooted for, its because the community knows them and unanimously agrees they would be a good candidate. bc we know them. as a friend. and we know they would be a good choice. its not fame its just knowing someone?? lol

i used to complain with you, all "why are the ogs so mean to people who main sky and surv :(" and coming from the other side, trust me, it's well deserved. the communities change so fast, new people are constantly in and out of there. friendships are fucked up and new people run the server every other month. like he said, it literally IS full of randoms lol

i didn't even read this thread all the way through before i typed this out but mcdonalds is fr the only person on the forums rn with any common sense. he said it perfectly.
no one cares if you're new on the server. the people who are being "toxic" are the people who care about the server and don't want it to go to shit again.
whichever minimods get accepted this season, i genuinely hope that they take care of the server and follow the guidelines and don't **** things up. i hope this isn't a repeat of summer, but from what i've seen/heard from the remaining applicants, its not looking good. at all.
anyways hehexd mcdonalds is the only smart person on forums end of story
im not smart :(((


anyways, what ash said is correct. @Neptune888, everything you said didnt help u since ash just dropped the bombs lmfao
 
....ok listen i was convinced to do this so um here we go, problematic ash is back at it again!

i assume you aren't familiar w/ twisted/lasike, smooved, or other shitty past trainees. you joined the legacy forums in october, which is way past when they were an issue. note that that's when you joined to talk about someone tree griefing, so you weren't super actively involve. dthat's why the "oldgens" "don't like change", because the last time they hired random new minimods, a bunch of false punishments, griefed discord servers, etc etc.

literally no one is saying that new players aren't welcome on the server. play on it all you want. what we don't want is for new random players who only know how to request locks and write a decent app in a position of power, especially above players who regularly play on the server.

u are misunderstanding the toxicity completely. no one is being mean to you because you're new, as a matter of fact, i haven't seen anyone really directly been mean to you. people have said this trainee season is going to be shit, and they're right lol.

for a majority of the denied candidates, it wasn't an issue of "they need to better themselves and improve upon themselves" lmfaoooo. it's the higherups being exceptionally nitpicky and holding tiny things against players. for example, if you've seen laylim's app (if hes chosen to share it with you) then you would know he is by far the most qualified person to be staff out of everyone who applied, and if you know the situation with his past demotion, you'd know why it's so frustrating to see that he can't get it, but random new players can. please stop talking when you don't know what you're talking about.

that's the issue bro!!! you don't know them!!! you don't know some very regular players on this server!! you didn't mention other people who were being commonly rooted for, embox, joe, twisst, velo, etc etc etc. we don't want someone who doesn't even know regular players to be in such a position of power ? you barely know the community, cmon man.
all kudos to you, you've been a great minimod and considering that the higherups in charge of accepting staff apps have already shown that this season is going to bring forth another batch of random trainees, im sure you'll be a great trainee too ? if you end up being accepted, please take care of the server. the "oldgens" aren't being toxic for no reason, its bc they've all seen the server go to shit bc of random ass people being chosen for staff and we don't want to see it again.

honorable mentions of dumb replies to this thread:

u attacked someone solely bc they were friends w me by sending ur friend to repeatedly be racist to him and then running to hamodi when he tried to defend himself, and yet out of all the times you cried about velo applying for stream clout, you never went after him. interesting. stop pretending you care about this server bro, all ur intentions are self focused im so weakkkkk

no one on this server is famous. its a community. if someone is well known and commonly being rooted for, its because the community knows them and unanimously agrees they would be a good candidate. bc we know them. as a friend. and we know they would be a good choice. its not fame its just knowing someone?? lol

i used to complain with you, all "why are the ogs so mean to people who main sky and surv :(" and coming from the other side, trust me, it's well deserved. the communities change so fast, new people are constantly in and out of there. friendships are fucked up and new people run the server every other month. like he said, it literally IS full of randoms lol

i didn't even read this thread all the way through before i typed this out but mcdonalds is fr the only person on the forums rn with any common sense. he said it perfectly.
no one cares if you're new on the server. the people who are being "toxic" are the people who care about the server and don't want it to go to shit again.
whichever minimods get accepted this season, i genuinely hope that they take care of the server and follow the guidelines and don't **** things up. i hope this isn't a repeat of summer, but from what i've seen/heard from the remaining applicants, its not looking good. at all.
anyways hehexd mcdonalds is the only smart person on forums end of story
ok
 
Well, I didn’t say famous as in like they are a celebrity. Said it as they are known and they are just more popular than others in terms of relevancy. This is in regards to that that paragraph you wrote. @ash
 
Well, I didn’t say famous as in like they are a celebrity. Said it as they are known and they are just more popular than others in terms of relevancy. This is in regards to that that paragraph you wrote. @ash
bb i know what it's in regards to, dont fret
being known on here is a good thing. then people know if you're someone to root for during staff app seasons, or not. for example, most people have never heard of neptune before staff apps opened, but almost everyone has heard of laylim or redot or james or twisst or velo, the list goes on and on. again, tho, it's not "fame," it's just being active enough on the server to the point where people know you.
no one is saying that just because you're well known you should be staff. i will gladly go through a list of people who are well known that i know DAMN well no one's rooting for them to get staff lmao
 
I wanted to make a post addressing the recent hostility towards those who are still pending for staff applications.

I understand that some of you are quite upset that some good applicants were denied. I, too, was hoping for certain people like Laylim, Redot, and James to be accepted. However, the managers ultimately decided that they weren't going to accept them this season. It sucks, but they should use this as a way to improve upon themselves and come back as an even better candidate next season. This isn't to say there is anything wrong with them now - from what I've seen and heard, they're all great people. I'm just trying to look for the positives in a not-so-great situation. Everyone who was still pending these past couple weeks were, for the most part, good applicants. If you were denied, that doesn't necessarily mean that you "weren't qualified". If you were one of the applicants still recently pending, chances are there were simply one or two minimal issues with you or your application that can be worked on and fixed for next season.

As for the applicants who are still in, the "oldgens" and majority of the KitPVP community in general shouldn't assume that they are a bad batch just because they aren't well-known on KitPVP. If they are still pending, it means that the managers have deemed them good enough to qualify for a staff position. Being well-known on kit is not a requirement for staff. Keep in mind that some of the most popular staff members we have now (I'm not going to name names) were so-called "randoms" before becoming staff. You just have to be patient and get to know them.

Speaking of the "oldgens" on this server, many of you seem to have a fear of change. I understand you grew familiar with the people who were on the server at the same time as you. Welcoming new people who you've never met before can be uncomfortable at first, but you have to push through it. Change is an inevitable part of everything that we all need to adapt to at some point or another. If you find yourself becoming angry about new players joining, ask yourself this: "Why am I angry?" I believe that meeting more people who enjoy the same thing(s) you do should be a positive experience, not a negative one. If it's a negative experience for you, what can you do to make it more positive?

I'm well aware that I will be receiving some rather toxic replies to this post, so I'm going to say it now: If your reply is simply a toxic insult or attempt to push my buttons, I'm just not going to respond to you.

If you have an issue with me or what I've said in this post, please don't hesitate to start a conversation with me or message me on discord.
I appreciate all of you, even if you've been toxic to me. Everyone deserves a second chance and it's never too late to change the way you treat those around you. Being kind is not a negative personality trait.

Love you all ❤
-Neptune
stfu random, im hacking u now.
 
WE don't like change because we've literally experienced every change invaded has to offer and 9/10 its a really bad change.
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"oh the staff arn't that bad and ohh they're so nice and friendly ahaha they must be kept on for staff if they have the qualifications right"

Headass lmfao This was before your time but there was a staff member called ethucc who was 17 and perfectly qualified and acted exactly how you "new gens" do, oh and he also sent dick pics to 13-12 year old girls.
 
-ethucc who was 17 and perfectly qualified and acted exactly how you "new gens" do, oh and he also sent dick pics to 13-12 year old girls.
yikes kinda sounds like one of the other applicants who got denied this season, ifykyk-
 
....ok listen i was convinced to do this so um here we go, problematic ash is back at it again!
Speaking your mind isn't being problematic <3

i assume you aren't familiar w/ twisted/lasike, smooved, or other shitty past trainees. you joined the legacy forums in october, which is way past when they were an issue. note that that's when you joined to talk about someone tree griefing, so you weren't super actively involved in the community. that's why the "oldgens" "don't like change", because the last time they hired random new minimods, there were a bunch of false punishments, griefed discord servers, etc etc.
I have briefly heard of the smooved situation and was around when lasike griefed the council discord. As you said, I wasn't actively involved - I won't argue with that because it's true. I can see where you guys are coming from due to past issues in similar situations, and I understand that it feels like a repeat of the situation when you don't know the people who have a possible chance of becoming staff. You have good reason to be worried, which is why I'm hoping this season will help ease these feelings that you have towards us and the situation.

literally no one is saying that new players aren't welcome on the server. play on it all you want. what we don't want is for new random players who only know how to request locks and write a decent app in a position of power, especially above players who regularly play on the server.
When I got more into the toxicity towards new players, it is less in regard to the staff applications and more in regard to the oldgens and kit community in general. Every single day, people are constantly belittled on the server for being "randoms", "newgens", etc. People have been told on the forums that they shouldn't be allowed to play on the server simply because they weren't around in 2015-2018. This is the kind of toxicity that I am worried will corrupt the server, as that's what is has been doing. You state that the current applicants only know how to request locks and write decent applications. You seem to forget that if people are still remaining, they need to have staff experience on previous servers. They know how to handle punishments. The trainees from the summer season that have a lot of you worried simply chose to abuse. This is not due to them being "randoms", this is due to their own personal decisions and personalities. Not every single "newgen" has the same personality.

u are misunderstanding the toxicity completely. no one is being mean to you because you're new, as a matter of fact, i haven't seen anyone really directly been mean to you. people have said this trainee season is going to be shit, and they're right lol.
People have been rude to me in private instances such as discord messages as well as in-game. I'm not going to disclose names nor information as I'm not one to publicly shame someone, but they know who they are. As @Lonewulfx3 said, the people who say that this season will be bad can not tell the future. They are making assumptions and while that is okay to do, it is not okay to publicize them in an attempt to shame people into being denied. @ApexWasabi explained this in his post earlier, I'd recommend reading it if you haven't already.

for a majority of the denied candidates, it wasn't an issue of "they need to better themselves and improve upon themselves" lmfaoooo. it's the higherups being exceptionally nitpicky and holding tiny things against players. for example, if you've seen laylim's app (if hes chosen to share it with you) then you would know he is by far the most qualified person to be staff out of everyone who applied, and if you know the situation with his past demotion, you'd know why it's so frustrating to see that he can't get it, but random new players can. please stop talking when you don't know what you're talking about.
I've mentioned before that I was hoping for Laylim to get staff this season. It sucks that he wasn't chosen, but that is due to the managers - not the applicants. People are taking their frustrations out on the remaining applicants when nothing they've said or done has caused good people to be denied. It was the managers' decisions; how is it the applicants' fault?

that's the issue bro!!! you don't know them!!! you don't know some very regular players on this server!! you didn't mention other people who were being commonly rooted for, embox, joe, twisst, velo, etc etc etc. we don't want someone who doesn't even know regular players to be in such a position of power ? you barely know the community, cmon man.
I didn't mention every single person being rooted for because I didn't want this thread to be about that. I was hoping for Joe and Velo as well - I'm friends with them (albeit closer to velo, but I've still had many positive interactions with joe). I don't know Twisst very well, but from the interactions I have had with him, I also believe he would have made a good trainee. I do know the community, I'm just not close with a majority of the kitpvp players.

all kudos to you, you've been a great minimod and considering that the higherups in charge of accepting staff apps have already shown that this season is going to bring forth another batch of random trainees, im sure you'll be a great trainee too ? if you end up being accepted, please take care of the server. the "oldgens" aren't being toxic for no reason, its bc they've all seen the server go to shit bc of random ass people being chosen for staff and we don't want to see it again.
I still don't understand what about me makes me a minimod other than "this person said she's a minimod so she must be one". Sure, I've requested a few locks on toxic threads, but that's exactly why - they were toxic. As for "question answered, requesting lock" which is commonly associated with minimods, I only ever said this when the same exact answer was being repeated over and over as a way for people to post boost. If I am accepted this season, I will do everything I possibly can to take care of the server and make sure that the same situation from before doesn't repeat itself. I understand that the "oldgens" are worried, but that's no excuse to take it out on innocent people who just want to help.


Thank you for being civil about this. I'm wishing you the best.
 
it's actually insane that there were 2 people who did the same thing?? What happened to the other dude afterwards?
He's logged on once since the incident and that was for his demotion (Mid 2017 I think) No one really liked him from the community so he just cut off his ties from invaded and moved on
 
He's logged on once since the incident and that was for his demotion (Mid 2017 I think) No one really liked him from the community so he just cut off his ties from invaded and moved on
damnnn, at least he's not around anymore, the more recent dude is really really really well know for minimodding and was denied, and is taking a break/leaving the community. i had seen pics of his pp and was asked for them (which i didnt send)
 
Speaking your mind isn't being problematic <3
i said that preemptively bc someone was bound to call me out for it
&& pls stop using the term oldgens, for ur own wellbeing, ur getting clowned on disc for it, just say ogs lmao

You have good reason to be worried, which is why I'm hoping this season will help ease these feelings that you have towards us and the situation.
history repeats itself. im hoping the same thing for this season, so is everyone else. that’s why they’re all bitching.
Every single day, people are constantly belittled on the server for being "randoms", "newgens", etc. People have been told on the forums that they shouldn't be allowed to play on the server simply because they weren't around in 2015-2018
being called a random or a newgen is what comes with being new lmao i still hear it 24/7, but i know it doesnt mean im not welcome. my forst interaction ever on legacy was being called a random like ,, its just how the server goes lmao
As @Lonewulfx3 said, the people who say that this season will be bad can not tell the future.
they’re seeing patterns and calling them out. what the ogs are saying isnt out of a place of malice or any shit like that, its out of annoyance bc this is the same shit that happened in the summer
@ApexWasabi explained this in his post earlier, I'd recommend reading it if you haven't already.
i read it. didn’t quote it bc im on good terms w him and didnt wanna drag this up into his notifs.
. People are taking their frustrations out on the remaining applicants when nothing they've said or done has caused good people to be denied. It was the managers' decisions; how is it the applicants' fault?
anyone thats personally blaming u for managers decisions isnt correct, again, you’re misunderstanding the toxicity. we’re frustrated bc theyre making the same mf mistakes over and over again by hiring random people. no one said it was the applicants fault.
If I am accepted this season, I will do everything I possibly can to take care of the server and make sure that the same situation from before doesn't repeat itself.
thats all we can ask for ig
 
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